ALL WGS FAULT AGAIN

I'm still relatively confident now that we're getting Brown back and Loovens has shown himself to be adequate cover.

I think that if we lose the title, though, questions must be asked as to how we lost this league. Someone whether it's players, the manager, or the board has to accept the burden of losing the title to this Rangers team.

 

so what you are saying is Rangers are better than us.

 

The daggers are out yet again but as celtic fans we have to admit our poor performance the last two years is down to many factors and is not one persons fault.
1.epl and it huge spending power.
2.spl is * and they have no real prize money.
3.the celtic board have to keep a cap on spending.
4.wgs hands are tied in the transfer market.
5. same 11 players every week and no real challange to thier places in the team.
6.player go where the money is.
Ill say it again its all about money and we have * all cash to burn,i do think we are only 20 million away from a good team but it might aswell be 100 million.
Im not sure any other manager could do much better without the money to spend.
But its not over till the fat lady sings and she aint on stage yet....

 

In the grand scheme of things you can argue the merits of individual players and their respective qualities all day long, but it's teams who win and lose matches and gain or lose the points. They are 2 points better off than us from the same amount of games and they've conceeded less goals.

They're ugly and I'd go as far as to say they're extremely poor individually but as a team they're hard to beat, have self belief and that's more than we have at the moment. We cannot defend and have been like that all season yet the manager persists with zonal defending. It's laughable to be honest!

McCourt was lauded after recent performances in the reserves yet can't get a game against the oldest team in the SPL and a guy who hasn't played first team football in almost 6 months does get a game!

The huns would have * themselves at the thought of McGeady and McCourt running at them for 90 minutes. The two of them would have pulled that hun back line all over the place and opened up spaces for others to exploit.

We were flat, one dimensional and lacked belief also. JVoH had one header of note throughout the game and McDonald was pushed out so far he was hardly a threat.

McGeady was good enough to get MOTM in the Cup Final but wasn't deemed good enough to start last Saturday. I'm now convinced the McGeady incident is not finished and that there are personal factors involved and it's now affecting Strachan's judgement as to the best team to put on the park.

 

I see where your coming from mate ,but this Celtic team are better than them but for some reason they cant hit form ,an element of the blame has to be laid at the managers door ,playing players out of position ,not playing players when they should be playing ,not dropping players when they should be ,its caught up on Celtic now .btw ive been behind GS for a long time but im mystified by some of his decisions of late .

 

I agree with all you said above FTB but unfortunately, this final paragraph is the most worrying part for me.

McGeady seemed to have knuckled down after his enforced leave of absence yet it looks as though Strachan is still holding a grudge against him - the team should come before personal issues.

 

McGeady was good enough to get MOTM in the Cup Final but wasn't deemed good enough to start last Saturday. I'm now convinced the McGeady incident is not finished and that there are personal factors involved and it's now affecting Strachan's judgement as to the best team to put on the park FTB QUOTE.

That tells me something aswell ,that this fued if you like is still simmering away ,the first sign that Maloney was fit he gets the nod .and basically it was all there to be seen that he wasnt ready for that game ,we have allready spoke about McCourt mate ,him on the wing and McGeady playing as a floater the other day would have done the trick .

 

Ron Atkinson is massively respected by Strachan as he mentored him in early management. He said that when Strachan "gets down on a player" then the relationship is as good as over.

We seen it with Riordan but no-one cared as much as the guy wasn't a key player. I'm still not sure we're seeing it with McGeady or not. Strachan is being quoted in the press that he's adamant it isn't personal, so if not it's his professional judgement that comes into question and I think we have a right to know why an unfit player should be chosen in front of a fully fit player.

I noticed he's resorted to his usual practice of throwing vast amounts of stats at the problem hoping we'll all be too busy trying to decypher them to remember the intial problem.

The only stats that interest me is goals and points. I personally don't care if they have 20 shots on target to our one, as long as our one results in a goal being scored and none of theirs are goals.

His attitude towards the fans of the club should again be called into question after his comments yesterday that he doesn't have anyone to answer to. I completely disagree with that and his masters within CFC Plc should have a quiet word reminding him who pays his salary and that he in fact IS answerable to the people who follow our club with a passion.

 

Every time we lose a game its * mcgeady mcgeady mcgeady...there is more to celtic than just one player.Im sure we have lost games when he has been playing.
There is alot more wrong with celtic than just one guy on the bench,i think he is a great player but if we cant play without one guy then turn the lights out and go home.
And i remember lots of fans on here moaning when sheridan wasnt getting a game in the first team,and then he did and it was...he is *....not good enough.
Now its mcCourt mcCourt.....
You have to trust the people at celtic (not just wgs) to bring these lads into the first team at the right time,look at that * liam miller bang in the spot light and before we knew it he was gone.
If its to fast it can go to thier heads and all of a sudden they are world beaters.

 

Do you know what's really annoying, the fact that the fans are so split down the middle, we all want what's best for Celtic but there are two distinct camps within the support and that is not what is best for our club.

Even in the dark days of the 90's, skipping school to see if our club would be saved the fans weren't split so vehemently but nowadays we are divided right down the middle (if we can go by the poll on the other thread) and that saddens me as much, if not more so, than the actual results (or lack thereof)

 

Who said it was only McGeady, McGeady etc...???

The fact remains he's an in form, fit player who was dropped for a player who's not played a full game in half a year. If that makes sense to you then fine, but it makes none to me. I am a big fan of Maloney but even Stevie Wonder could see that 20 mins intio that game Crosas and Maloney were empty jerseys. We had nothing in midfield and if Strachan had the balls to change things then most reasonable people would at least have respected him for doing something proactive.

I get a bit sick of reading and hearing how good our "production line" is and how vast the pool of young talent we have at our disposal then watching our manager play unfit and out of form players.

Your perogative if you choose to accept that, but I don't.

 

Agree with all that - but with the introduction of all seated stadia and season tickets, I think there has been a major shift in attitudes within the fans or at least some of the fans. And I think that suits the board because a divided support is an easier one to control. Put it this way - had a manager been so arrogant and so ignorant towards the fans in the 90's, he wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes.

Back in the 90s we were part of the club. Now we are only a name on a direct debit mandate and that saddens me more than results and the split in the fans put together.

 

FFS. We can't blame WGS for the result against Rangers.

Blame Maloney for not tracking Davis
Blame Naka for * delivery
Blame McGeady for lashing at a golden chance
Blame Davis for clearing Jan's header off the line

If we'd won the game WGS would have been a tactical genius!

 

Every time mcgeady is not playing and we lose there is a out cry from people on here and you know it.
And if we are honest the (production line) is all we have at celtic because we sure as * aint buying our way out of trouble.
He has changed things from time to time,he played unfit players and players out of position...:icon_mrgreen:
We all know if mcGeady had played and we lost then there would be shouts for maloney to play.
Just because i aint creaming from the roof tops for wgs head does not mean i am happy with the way my team plays.

 

Yea and in the '90s this club run on the whims of its fans almost lost 10 leagues on the trot. But I hear we played some downright glossy football (while bleeding goals profusely)

 

well you knew a celtic fan was a celtic fan back then.

it's these same fans that aren't happy with how the club is now. back then we weren't in the financial position compared to rangers that we are now, that's why so many fans, including myself, are tearing their hair out week in week out.

yet again tonight we were holding on at home against lesser opposition. that really is not good enough.