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ALL WGS FAULT AGAIN

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by celtic 1967, May 9, 2009.

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  1. gunt

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    Unfortunately the Crosas-Hartley CM had to be because Brown was out ans Robson has only just started training a week ago after half a season out.

    I agree JVOH is now a waste of space. I think he was only on to add height to a fairly wee team. There was no other fully fit alternative for a 2 striker option. Sammy couldnt have been nearly fit enough to start.

    As for moving on - summer will hopefully see JVOH, Hartley, Bobo, Donati Doumbe, Naylor etc move on and free up 5 million or so in the annual wage bill. I dont think there will be much difficulty in shifting thewe guys as tghey are all out of contract or want to go. The rest are all good enough IMO. They are either past it or too old to be treated as prospects. Mick can remain as a squad player IMO.
     
  2. Quince Brigada

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    I don't think Strachan CAN explain his decisions. I don't think he knows himself! Probably just puts the names in a hat? We're 1/0 down & can't buy a goal & desperately need something. Anything. To put the ball in the net. The Ginger Genius's idea? Tinker with the defence, bring on Naylor for O Dea! Why couldn't he have brought on Paddy McCourt? Apparantly McCourt "lacks fittness". Well, so does Samaras. He's not fit to pull on a Celtic Shirt & never will be!

    This didn't just happen today. Like my optimism. We've been dying a slow death on parks the lengh & breadth of Scotland all season. Though not as slow as Jan Verypoor Of Hesselink. Who looks as though he's necked a handfull of Valium & sprayed his lead boots with Ball Repellant.

    This is down to mendacity,broken prommises & faiure to invest. Like that made by Lawell & as soon reneged upon. (once the season-tickets were sold) Guaranteeing funds available "to take us into the last eight of the Uefa Champion's League". Then choosing instead to keep the money & gamble against a cash-strapped & unable to improve Rangers being unable to last the distance. Just goes to show once again, that Celtic FC, is a wholy owned subsidiary of Celtic PLC
     
  3. Andy bhoy

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    Iv has time to calm down from yesterday but i still don not understand what wgs was thinking. Maloney has been out for months and made a 5 min apperance since recovering, so wgs desides to throw him into the biggest game of the season
    Then he tells the team to try a slow build up with lots of passing when everyone know that if you try that the huns will put everyone behind the ball . The best way to get them was on a counter , which could have happend if mcgeadys pace was on the pitch.
    Then with 10 mins to go he brings on Naylor :31: What was wrong robson !?
    He prob dose not know why he did these things himself ...
     
  4. Bhoy Brian

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    mcgeady hasnt done much against rangers this season and to be honest if wgs had said it was a tactic that meant he had mcgeady with his pace to come on and run at tired defenders then it makes sense . I am as gutted as the rest of you about losing but lets put it into context . We played well and i believe were the better team although we didnt score but a draw would have suited us too and they only had a couple more chances when we started to commit players forward so like the rest of you i will be praying for them to drop points too . Id have been more gutted if we had been poor although a loss is a loss . I like mcgeady as a player but lets be honest his decision making sometimes leaves a lot to be desired and he does drift out of the game . I just dont believe he would have made all the difference thats all
     
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    mc geady tore rangers 2 shreds at hampden he should of been playing yday
     
  6. celtic 1967

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    Are you having a laugh:31:
     
  7. celtic 1967

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    get real the cup final he had the huns all over the place in extra time
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  8. ladbroke8

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    The FACT id the Massimo Donati's deflected goal against SHakhtar was the ONLY difference between their 1st 2 CL seasons respectivley

    on their 3rd attempt the both went out altogether. I am not bringing Oneill into it im saying that the circumstances that Stachan triumphed in carried a lot of luck in CL and the opposition in the league was poor in season 1 and 2, and in season 3 we won 7 in a row coz suspensions forced a change not a managerial masterstroke.

    The product is poor, empty seats and apathy dont lie. Are you happy with how its going?
     
  9. ladbroke8

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    I agree, some of the decisions are very strange, when he left Aiden out against Dundee Utd he said it was due to the form of the squad but when McManus has been shocking he kept using him and when Aiden has been playing well he drops him. not very consistent is he.
     
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    you tell me then. if you're gonna bang your head against a wall give me reasons.

    we have to give a manager cash. if alex ferguson were to come he'd have a hard job on his hands.

    ramos failed miserably at spurs with money. so how can you guarantee me that he'll do any better than strachan without money??????????
     
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    FFS the league can still be won and everyone is throwing the towel in! We played the huns off the park on saturday, there tactics were simply nick a goal and defend it at all costs. Going out with those tactics at home shows us that smith knows we are better than them.

    Yet all I've seen on here is how we were pish and that the manager should go, when we pick up the league trophy, I suppose all you guys will still say he should go!

    I think its good for the club we have a manager that is dedicated to the job and can work within a budget, if he goes we'll end up with some big spending * that will come in spend millions and then leave after a year or two. We need stability or we'll end up just like the huns.
     
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    You cant blame strachan for everything mate. The guys done a decent job at the club under the circumstances, quit playing the blame game and get behind the bloke
     
  13. Martin

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    Which they did mate, successfully. So how did we play them off the park ?

    And the fact that Smith pulls it off successfully (with inferior players) must then indicate that he is a better manager.

    Yes. If Rangers blew it mate in the last 3 games that will not somehow magically undo how crap we have been this season.

    No one's got a crystal ball, we don't know what would happen.
     
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    am getting bored wa all of u's blaming WGS, its the players who play not him.
    we would all have pick big VAN and McDon for up front. Big Van is a lump of wood, again McDonald was running everywhere and trying to do stuff. Only one I would say he got wrong was Maloney for mcgeady but last few old firms he played * so a wee change to drop him.wgs pick the starting 11 which am sure there may only be one change if we were picking the teams.

    Hail Hail
     
  15. hairytoes

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    Are you saying that being a lump of wood is a good thing for a striker?:97:
     
  16. currie

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    Haha :50:- you know what a mean- the big man is *, finished.
     
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    Being slightly better off than the worst Huns team in many a year is hardly doing a good job in my book. Some good European results, he has to be credited for - likewise some downright stinking results he must also be credited for.

    And what "circumstances" has the poor man had to work under? He's spent far more than the rest of the league put together (Huns apart) and not one of the teams are afraid of us.
     
  18. celtic 1967

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    who signed the lump of wood:31:
     
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    The truth is our lack of a decent striker has caused us major problems for ages, but we can't afford the best and even the semi-decent are going to the premierships small teams ahead of us so other than WGS getting them to sign a contract at gunpoint what can he do!!

    I would much rather have continuity at the club, than chop and change manager going from crisis to crisis. WGS hasn't done much wrong as manager and I think he deserves our support.
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  20. 9jinky9

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    I am neither a fervent pro or anti WGS advocate and I will only judge him based on the facts in front of me...and with that said, I give him all the credit in the world for leading us to three titles in a row and for reaching the last 16 of the champions' league in two consecutive years. To achieve that in this proverbial "belt-tightening" environment is a true testament to how well he has done......so far!! But just as the players are held accountable for their performances, so must the manager be!

    Strachan must admit that he got it wrong against Rangers. His team selection beggars belief. We were already missing the driving force of our midfield through suspension, so the manager's tactical masterstroke was to also deprive us of probably the most naturally talented footballer in the country. Not only that, he replaced him with a player who hadn't played a full 90 minutes in months. I cannot hold anything against him for selecting Crosas or big Jan because quite honestly, I would have played them both myself. I know that McGeady's performances against Rangers in the past have left a little to be desired, but in the most recent OF game before this weekend, i thought he was excellent and was fully deserving of a man of the match award. Is there anyone here who can honestly say that a rusty and unfit Maloney was a better option against an aging Rangers defence than a rejuvenated McGeady? But what explanation did we get for this glaring mistake in team selection that has cost us so dearly? "I don't need to explain myself to anybody." Well I don't know about you lot, but that isn't good enough for me. I hate to break it to you Mr. Strachan, but, in fact, that is exactly what you need to do. You need to hold your hand up and accept responsibility for a seemingly nonsensical team selection in the most important game of the season. I think we all know however, that Strachan will never stoop so low as to converse with us mere footballing mortals about the fallibility of his tactics. As a result, we are forced to make our own conjectures.

    Now, even though it has been touted as "nonsense" in the papers, it is my humble opinion that Strachan's team selection on Saturday had as much to do with personal previous as it did with trying to win the game. He obviously has his differences with McGeady, but there is a deeper, scarier issue underneath the facade "nonsense." Strachan has shown time and again that he is: huffy, self-righteous, discourteous, and inconsiderate with the manner in which he addresses the Celtic supporters via the press. These are characteristics not befitting a manager of Glasgow Celtic and equally as undeserving for the Celtic supporters. Lest he should forget, we were here long before he was, and we will be here long after he leaves. I cringe almost everytime he is interviewed by the press. He is the medium between Celtic and the rest of the world, and at times, I feel embarassed by the image that he portrays of our beautiful football club. Please don't get me wrong, I am very grateful to the man for the titles he has delivered and for the magical nights we have enjoyed in the CL under his stewardship. I do not think he is a bad manager, and I certainly don't want him to leave the club. All I want, is for him to hold himself to the same standard that he holds his players to and to show a little humility when he has gotten a decision so obviously wrong. It is the least that we expect, and the very least that we deserve.

    So wee man, do us all a turn, turn this thing around and win us 4-in-a-row then you can shut wee arseholes like me up for good!!:50: Keep the faith lads, there is time to win it yet!!!