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  1. faw cough Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nope.

    Go back and read the bit i highlighted and then think again.
     
  2. imac

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    Jock Tamson's Bairns

    Interesting reading. As a passionate Celtic fan I despise this minority who use Celtic as a political vehicle by singing sectarian rubbish and not respecting 1 minutes silence.

    My point is that many Celtic players and fans died to protect our freedom. If it was not for them their would be no Celtic or even a Rangers.

    My own story is quite interesting. My great grandfather came from south of Dublin and settled in Mallaig on the NW coast of Scotland. All his children fought either in the 1st and 2nd WW with a few killed in action. So my minutes slience is for my Great Grandfather for the pain he suffered in burying his own and also those who were exposed to these wars and others over the years. Other family members since have served in NI, The Falklands etc and I am extremely proud of the difficult job they do.

    So I do not have time for people who bring politics and terrorist songs into our football club and believe me the majority of celtic fans feel the same. I spend alot of time in Southern Ireland and they also have no time for these people who flaunt nonsence in their name.

    To the minority of so called bigots whi disrupted or support the disruption of our countries minutes silence please stay away from Celtic Park and the wearing of our colours. If you wish to voice your opinions you can do so outside the Scottish Parliament or Westminster. You day has come and gone forever.

    A wee side line. My great uncle Bill Lyon captained Celtic in the 30's and his career was shortened when he was called up to join the Army. He served as a Major and was awarded the Military Cross which I am and all true Celtic fans should be extremely proud of. He showed extreme courage which is fitting of a Celtic Captain. His injuries received during this incident led to him never playing football again so I say ' I WILL REMEMBER'.

    I am a Celtic fan, Scotsman and British citizen and my passion is Celtic FC and why not. My familes and others sacrificies have allowed me to make that choice. After all we are all Jock Tamson's Barins.
     
  3. DanniGhirl

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    Everyone is entitled to their opinions whether you or I agree with them without telling those you disagree with to stay away from Celtic. Celtic always has been, and hopefully always will be a club open to all, regardless of colour, creed or political beliefs.

    Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that they are not entitled to their opinion.
     
  4. imac

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    Once they behave and show respect and humility then they will have the right to walk into celtic park and for that matter any other stadium bearing Celtic as their club. Do I have to repeat this I will not tolerate anyone abusing my family by desecrating rememberance Sunday. Your day has come and gone. Go and find somewhere else to hang your door.
     
  5. faw cough Gold Member Gold Member

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    What about fans who have had family murdered,tortured,harrassed by the B.A..........have they got a right to protest at support shown for the modern day army.

    I ask this because you say you have family who served in the north and you are very proud of them.
     
  6. DanniGhirl

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    I'm sorry but you have no right to say who can and who can not support Celtic, it's not your decision to make. You can disagree with them but they are entitled to their opinion and it doesn't stop them being Celtic fans.
     
  7. imac

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    I REST MY CASE TO THOSE WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING INCLUSION

    Read what your club stands for below:

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    SOCIAL MISSION STATEMENT


    Introduction

    Celtic Football Club is legendary and as with most legends as much myth as fact surrounds its history and what the Club stands for today. The Social Mission Statement aims to simply define what the Club stands for and seeks to promote within society.
    History

    Celtic Football Club was founded in 1888. Its principal founder was a Marist Brother named Walfrid. The Club had two principal aims: The first aim was to raise funds to provide food for the poor of the East End of Glasgow, an area of the City that was greatly impoverished and had a high rate of infant mortality. Within the East End was a large Irish community and friction was growing between the native Glaswegians and the new influx of Irish. Brother Walfrid saw the need for social integration and his vision was a football club that Scottish and Irish, Protestants and Catholics alike could support. A new football club would be a vehicle to bring the communities together and this was the second aim. The Marist brother sought for the Club to have both a Scottish and Irish identity and hence, the Club’s name “Celtic” came about, representing a bridge of cultures across the Irish Sea.
    Current Positioning of Celtic Football Club

    Celtic Football Club is a Scottish football club with proud Irish links. The primary business of Celtic is as a football club. It is run on a professional business basis with no political agenda. However, the Club has a wider role and the responsibility of being a major Scottish social institution promoting health, well-being and social integration.
    Who is Celtic Football Club for?

    Celtic Football Club is for people who want to support a football club that strives for excellence in Scotland and in Europe, is proud of its history, supportive of its local community and seeks to support the following aims: “To maximise all opportunities to disassociate the Club from sectarianism and bigotry of any kind. To promote Celtic as a Club for all people, regardless of gender, age, religion, race or ability.”
    Summary

    Celtic is a club for everyone who believes in football as a medium for healthy pleasure, entertainment and social integration. The Club always has been and always will simply aim to be the team of the people.


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  8. imac

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    I REST MY CASE.

    [​IMG]
    SOCIAL MISSION STATEMENT


    Introduction

    Celtic Football Club is legendary and as with most legends as much myth as fact surrounds its history and what the Club stands for today. The Social Mission Statement aims to simply define what the Club stands for and seeks to promote within society.
    History

    Celtic Football Club was founded in 1888. Its principal founder was a Marist Brother named Walfrid. The Club had two principal aims: The first aim was to raise funds to provide food for the poor of the East End of Glasgow, an area of the City that was greatly impoverished and had a high rate of infant mortality. Within the East End was a large Irish community and friction was growing between the native Glaswegians and the new influx of Irish. Brother Walfrid saw the need for social integration and his vision was a football club that Scottish and Irish, Protestants and Catholics alike could support. A new football club would be a vehicle to bring the communities together and this was the second aim. The Marist brother sought for the Club to have both a Scottish and Irish identity and hence, the Club’s name “Celtic” came about, representing a bridge of cultures across the Irish Sea.
    Current Positioning of Celtic Football Club

    Celtic Football Club is a Scottish football club with proud Irish links. The primary business of Celtic is as a football club. It is run on a professional business basis with no political agenda. However, the Club has a wider role and the responsibility of being a major Scottish social institution promoting health, well-being and social integration.
    Who is Celtic Football Club for?

    Celtic Football Club is for people who want to support a football club that strives for excellence in Scotland and in Europe, is proud of its history, supportive of its local community and seeks to support the following aims: “To maximise all opportunities to disassociate the Club from sectarianism and bigotry of any kind. To promote Celtic as a Club for all people, regardless of gender, age, religion, race or ability.”
    Summary

    Celtic is a club for everyone who believes in football as a medium for healthy pleasure, entertainment and social integration. The Club always has been and always will simply aim to be the team of the people.​
     
  9. DanniGhirl

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    Did you read the entire charter you quoted, or did you miss out the bit that Celtic is a club for all people, or is only for people whom you happen to agree with their political beliefs?
     
  10. WeeJoeHam

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    It simly was not the right time to stage a protest, protest all you like just dont be ignorant towards peole with different views or beliefs.

    If you dont agree with someone you dont just talk over the top of someone until they cant be heard. C'mon to * think about this. Whatever these fudds were trying to achieve was completely lost as they just came accross as ignoramus tyes who really cant control themselves.

    I'm utterly ashamed........(im going to sto before i launch into a rant that will get me banned)

    Poor show
     
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    I totally sympathise with your situation and the loss of families in NI their are some things from the Boer War, Dresden and elements of NI that have not done the people of Scotland or Britain very proud but that unfortunately is war for you and it is the innocents whether they be citizens and soldiers who suffer. I say you make your voice heard to the correct people i.e. NI assembly, Westminster. Celtic is not your medium to be used for your grievances or political views.
     
  12. tino1888

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    There wiz a lot more on the park to deal with on sunday !!!

    Think the poppy & 1mins silence or none silence papers over the cracks which wiz evident alll over the team !! Thats the most important view regarding 'CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB' at the moment

    Hail Hail

    p.s. im still recovering from hamburg !!! :54:
     
  13. DanniGhirl

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    I didn't say I agreed with their protest, I deliberately didn't give my opinion as I am stating that just because some fans have different political beliefs does not mean they are not Celtic fans.

    Since when does one group of fans have the right to say another group of fans are not welcome at Celtic purely because they disagree with their political beliefs?
     
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    Well said mate more or less what i was aiming at :50:
     
  15. faw cough Gold Member Gold Member

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    No football club is,which is why i dont understand why the rememberance day silence has been brought into all football grounds.

    If people want to remember they should have went to the rememberance services in town centres where the nation fell quiet for 2 minutes at 11am.





    edit.........also,celtic is not your football club to decide who can and who can not follow the team.
     
  16. erie32c

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    just one point there about busting into some one funnal ,did the police force backed up by the crown forces not baton charge numonuras funnarl in ireland ,and even stopped the family of one of the dead and dragg them from there cars and shot plastic bullets at them ,,i was at many of these funnarals and whittiness it and it was broadcast all over the t v for years ,one law for one and another one for everone else springs to mind,,slan
     
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    well i dont,,slan
     
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    As I recall the celtic fans were up in arms when the hearts fans ruined a minutes silence for the pope.I suppose they had every right to protest as the silence was forced on them,or maybe they are a bunch of scummy *.Our supporters need to learn that they cant have it both ways.
     
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    Gawd its funny that some of you posting in these threads and protesting outside falkirks ground will be some of THE same people who have been moaning ( rightly so ) about the rangers fans singing the famine song !! The bigger point here is that all these things like wars and famines dont descriminate against religions or faiths and thats partly why they show their ignorance b acting as if it was only catholics who died in the famine when the truth is it was starving irish people not religious people and as with wars it isnt only a section of religions who are killed its all faiths and beliefs . What happened in ireland is something we all know off and as has been said bfore i have every sympathy for what irish people have had to put up with and im sure the irish people on here would admit that there have been hundreds or thousands of INNOCENT people killed from BOTH sides during the troubles and soldiers go were they are posted . Theres good and bad on all sides and we can all live in the dark ages and point the finger at each other but I honestly believed we showed we were better than them because we dont act like animals . At the end of the day people can and will believe what they will but the main point from a lot is that we would rather all the people who want to protest and sing sick songs on all sides do it away from celtic because look at whats happening accross the city I for one dont want to see my club dragged through the gutter in the way some of their fans are doing to them !!!! Hail Hail !
     
  20. erie32c

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    just a quick word< did they have such a difficult job in ireland ,in my home town ,and many others here,searching kids aged2.and 3 years old and constance raiding homes at 6 and 7 in the morning thowing everthing around and any one in the house put into one room ,not allowed to go to the toilet for houres ,now we r talking about kids here not anyone else and then leaveing 8 hours later only to return the nex day and doing the same thing all over again ,,of course this is all for your freedom,not to menchien * sunday ,again in yopur name for your freedom ,,you see you sit smug in your wee home and dont no what da fuc you are about ,, another one who believes all thet * that your goverment tells you about how good your armies are ,,ffs they have been found guilty at the human rights courts in strasboug,i for one am i true celtic fan and who da fuc are you to say i am [extermely proud of anyone]
    ,far from it as i believe they are all of the same skin,now would you please go away and do what you do best, and believe all that *,,,slan and thats being polite
     
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