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FANS were singing OUTSIDE the ground.

 

So true.
I just seen on the news there. Nothing short of an outrage. It was sickening seeing the ignorance of your own support.

 

Inside our out, doesn't matter. Shouldn't have happened and it was making CFC fans look bad because it is shocking. Just sheer ignorance that some fans can't keep it buttoned for 1 min.

 

did they defo know a min silence was going on?

 

yeah and the people that have given up their lives so that their kids and us can live in a better world without fascist dicatators or a world without communism or a world without terrorism deserve to be respected for their sacrifice. regardless of who you are, where you come from you should have an ounce of respect for these people.

 

I was in the tent, and it was definately respected there, fair enough a few people turned there backs on the field, this is the way it should be done if any. not singing during a silence

 

Millions died in the Great War and the Second World War, defending our right to live in a democracy. The poppy isn't there to commemorate Britain's campaign of hate in Ireland. Like most on here, I'm Scottish, with an Irish grandparent and very strong familial links to Ireland. I despise what our army did over the water, but I also believe there should be a recognition for the sacrifice made by our countrymen between 1914-18 and 1939-45 in foreign climes. They weren't in Ireland, suppressing a population; they were abroad, fighting and dying in their thousands, so that we wouldn't have to live under the regime of a series of dictators. It's pretty ironic that had so many of them not given their lives to secure our freedom, the kind of action demonstrated by the ignorant on Sunday would've resulted with a bullet in the head. The occassion has been hijacked by both sides of the Old Firm and it would be funny, if it weren't so sad; a club with a prevelant neo-* faction, proudly recognising the achievements of others against Nazism and a minority of twats chanting bile about the very people who protect their right to chant like twats.

Scottish/Irish and proud to recognise the sacrifice of those before me.

 

It could easily have been a bit of both, there was alot of singing walking down the road towards the stadium from the industrial estate going in, groups of lads off bus's etc, although alot of people had decided not to enter the game until after the silence

I was in the tent and can say it ws respected in there, few backs turned but that was it.

Aye apparently Lawell was shaking his head because a Falkirk fan shouted ' Why Dont You * Off Home You * * '

 

Not being funny but the mins silence officially is at 1100. Now as for the fans outside. It was a kind of protest. Why should fans keep quiet outside? Im not being funny but they did the decent thing and stayed outside. That is what we were asking them to do. No matter who you are in the world you can not force anyone to keep quiet outside on the street that is like saying dont talk for 1 min no matter where you are in the world. Im just glad they did the right thing and stayed outside while they did it

 

I also find it ironic that in defeating the nazis, the british army and to some degree the american army saved Ireland.

You don't need to tell me what the british army has done to ireland in the past but I was just thinking, would ireland have been able to defeat the nazis if they had taken over europe and destroyed the UK? I'm not sure they would have.

That's irony for me, the british army commited great crimes against the irish but if it wasn't for the british army, Ireland wouldn't even be Irish today because the nazis european state would have wiped out anyone that opposed them the minute they landed on Irish soil.

 

I have no affiliation with the army or any armed forces and i dont bother with al the related bs BUT the people who attach themselves to our club with bs about the army and the queen and the ira and all that utter flaps should keep it to themselves or they should all meet and enjoy it in their own group because while i respect everyones opinions like it or not its got no place at the football and you say they force poppy day on us well some are forcing their opinions on it upon the rest and it reflects badly on our club

 

The whole poppy thing has got no place at the football - that's precisely what people object to.

I agree that some individuals' reaction to it is crass and inappropriate, but the key point is that it is a reaction, not a purely unprovoked outburst. People often react harshly and inappropriately to something which is imposed on them without their consent.

The reaction to the poppy day stuff is a reaction to something which has nothing to do with football, and has no place at a football match, and which fans at the game cannot avoid or say no to.

 

Exactly. Find the most dignified way available of registering your misgivings, without disrupting the proceedings for those who want to participate.

 

two wrongs dont make a right

 

Here's the thing, wither you dont respect the poppy or you do, at the end of the day our football club chose to wear the poppy & chose to respect the minute silence, as was put up on the websites there was ex Celtic players that lost there lifes in the World Wars, even if it was just for them that you respected it, as supporters you should have respected the clubs wishes.. Those of you who failed to do that, have no respect for the football club, you can put it across as you want, the Club asked for respect, you never gave it, so why can you make an excuse for that? Really all you care about is yourselfs, you dont care how much * the club can get in for something like that.. Cos you are just selfish!! & you should be ashamed..

So if you didnt respect the silence all you had to do was stay away, or come later.. Or have the decency to respect the other fans who wanted to respect the silence, not have to listen to your chanting, again as I said selfish!! Im sorry it just really annoys me & I struggle to see why you cant respect a minute silence, its a minute of your life to be quiet its not hard..

 

Mate you are crossing the line into insult here.

This forum functions on the basis of mutual respect - if you don't agree with a position then you're freely encouraged to debate it. The fact that you are choosing not to engage with it but simply sling insults does no credit to the sensitive subject under discussion. Please accept that there are people of goodwill and moral conscience who simply do not agree with you.

 

Looks like the BBC has picked up on the 'silence'... Reporting Scotland at 1025.

 

one thing is undeniable and thats no matter what you believe when sections of any clubs fans are seen disrespecting things like this or fighting or singing inappropriate songs it reflects badly on all of us as a club and thats what gets to most people because agree or disagree it doesnt look good and especioally at a time when we have an opportunity to show that its just them and we are better than that .

 

Ye im sorry i maybe went abit over the top, it just really frustrates me that a minute silence cant be respected, & that people went out there way to disrespect it, so I do apoligise I have insulted anyone..

 

Yeah, I can see you feel strongly about it.

That's the problem with this kind of issue - people of both viewpoints feel strongly, and it can get polarised...