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Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Gyp Rosetti, Dec 22, 2014.

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  1. WolfOfParkhead

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    No no go on and have a look.
     
  2. og1

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    When teams in Scotland sit back and let us come on to them it makes sense to have a strike partnership. We have seen how easy it is to isolate our central striker.

    I would like to see the manager solve this problem. Based on what we have seen thus far i can imagine that his plan B is to make plan A work. We only went with 2 up against utd because it was out of desperation. I hope he learns from this but i expect the 433/451 to remain
     
  3. Soul Rebel

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    Ok. From the rule book:

    SECTION 3—SHOTS
    Article 1. A shot is an attempt that is taken with the intent of
    scoring and is directed toward the goal.
    Article 2. A cross or crossing pass is not a shot. A cross is a
    long kick from a wide position into the penalty area in front of
    the goal. The intent of a cross is to set up a scoring opportunity
    for an attacking player. A goalkeeper who intercepts a cross is
    not credited with a save

    Now stop embarrassing yourself :50:
     
  4. Wicker Bhoy

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    It's specifically distinguishes between shots and crosses.
     
  5. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    A cross still isn't a shot though, especially over hit ones as Wolf was alluding to.
     
  6. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    How is it easy to isolate our striker? He's been missing chances galore recently.
     
  7. wulliebad

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    Apart from the shots that result in goals or saves.
     
  8. WolfOfParkhead

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    Ah well bpys fair enough ,ye have me there viking.
     
  9. Soul Rebel

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    Here's the rule book ruling you wanted. Now stop using Fifa 15 as a basis for your understanding of football.
     
  10. og1

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    So you dont think Gudettis play has been isolated and nullified by the opposition in the last few games? Be honest.
     
  11. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    Nope.

    Stokes, Johansen and Forrest have been getting close to him. Infact do you remember wee shooders giving him a bollocking a couple of games back for not squaring to him at the back post, then him actually setting Forrest up in the next game with a cracking pass.

    Never mind the amount of times Guidetti has been put clean through on goal only to fluff his lines.
     
  12. WolfOfParkhead

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    He posted it first he gets the point.
     
  13. Soul Rebel

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    Is there two of you posting off of this account? :smiley-laughing002:
     
  14. Liam Scales

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    Johansen would still be playing and allowed to roam forward and back in a 3 man midfield where we had similar performances from him last season. Then we have two good on the ball players with a lot of passion and energy offering more cover for Biton and the defence instead of leaving it open. Biton can focus on controlling a game if that happens.

    It's not relying on one player, Stokes hit 14 in 16 last season when he moved next to a partner last season while still setting up goals. Commons scored 32 over the season while setting up goals and just because Commons is on the pitch doesn't mean that Guidetti won't get in on the action. Those 3 players would score more combined than the 4 with Johansen and Forrest.

    Johansen and Forrest might bring goals from more positions, they don't bring more goals though, that's the thing.
     
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    My first major point on this board, happy to break my duck :icon_mrgreen:
     
  16. Liam Scales

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    By the way, there's a difference between a shot and an attempt on goal :icon_mrgreen:

    Depends on who's doing the counting!
     
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    We are Celtic. I would hope that our sole striker should be getting chances in every game no matter who the opposition is.

    There is no point arguing with you. You will not have a bad word to say about Delia. You were even giving our symbolic defence a pass in an earlier post. You will not see what most of us can see. There is big problems with our system and the crux of the matter is that we are winning despite of the system and not because of it.
     
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    How can you win in spite of the formation? Are the players ignoring the instructions and doing their own thing? Are we just lucky when we win and * when we lose?

    The manager sets up the team and gives them instructions, since he has got here the football has gotten gradually better as players get used to what he is asking them to do.

    There nothing in spite of anything there.
     
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    An attempt on goal that wasn't a shot would either have to be extremely ambiguous or on target. Not a * over hit cross or pass that is shielded out by a defender near the corner flag :smiley-laughing002:
     
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    Stokes has, for me, had his best season for Celtic this year in terms of overall play.

    I think we need a winger and this system will work perfectly the way it is. When you look at the way Chelsea play this season compared to last you can see the difference players make to a system. Mourinho put his system in place last season even though he didn't quite have the players to pull it off, he then seen what was missing and went out and bought the players he needed to make his system work, he didn't change the system. Ronny is doing the same thing, implementing his system first and foremost and then he will get in the players to play it.

    If this is the way he wants to play then he shouldn't go making short term changes to his long term plans to appease fans. We will benefit from it in the long run, while still winning the league and having European football after Christmas.