Lennon Miller

Absolutely no chance any hun was calling their weans lennon in 2006

 

A rangers fan on twitter claiming they have taken steps towards signing him.

 

David Watson > Lennon Miller. He'd probably be considerably cheaper as well.

 

Do you have any opinions that aren’t wildly idiosyncratic?

Could easily buy both, but in terms of raw talent, it’s Miller and not even remotely close. Watson a good player with decent potential (albeit a couple of years older than Miller) and is more of an athlete, but that’s because he’s also a totally different kind of midfielder.

 

This is spot on Watson is a good young player but very technically limited. I actually think he would struggle in a team tasked with building play rather than long chaos ball and a lot of running.

 

People were saying the exact same thing about McGinn. Personally, I value work rate and pace above anything else. For instance, I love Maeda. He's one of my favorite players. I enjoy watching Klopp's gegenpressing more than Guardiola's tiki taka. But that's just me. BR probably favors Guardiola's approach, although he recently emphasized on work rate, pressing and running without the ball when talking about Holm and Lawal. I think Miller is all about potential right now. Watson would have been a perfect signing under Ange. Both are intriguing players, that's for sure.

 

Miller isn’t ready to contribute to our first team, but undoubtedly has the potential to be a very good player.

In an ideal world we’d snap him up, loan him out and slowly integrate him, but frankly we have bigger issues in our squad needing addressed.

 

Again with the wild - and in this case, inaccurate - takes. I don’t recall that in the least re McGinn. Certainly he was being praised at the time for his athletic qualities and work-rate, but what made people excited about him was he combined that with technical skill, to a degree that Watson hasn’t shown so far.

 

Feel free to check out the McGinn transfer thread. Plenty of posters claiming he isn't good enough and isn't worth the money Hibs were asking for him. Didn't seem like people were excited about him.

No reason to make things personal mate. Feel free to disagree, no big deal.

 

McGinn is technically limited though

 

He sure is, but that didn't stop him from becoming an amazing box-to-box midfielder.

 

Not meaning to be overly personal really; it’s just a trend I’ve noticed with your posts. We all disagree and/or have random views sometimes, but very often when I see a post from you, it’s a pretty unusual take - more than often not contrary to the consensus. If that’s your bag, fair enough. I just find it odd.

 

Simply put it we lose Hatate or O'Riley then Miller has a clear path into that team. Gonna use the old "Fact" word here to show how serious I am. FACT.

 

That old "Fact" patter is very under utilised these days.

 

Disagree. Miller is a bigger talent than Watson and is the one we need to be getting.

 

I think we should buy him and loan him back to Motherwell, one or two seasons. Bayern been doing it in the Bundesliga for decades started with Kroos to Leverkusen and Lahm to Stuttgart. Everyone happy. We got hold on a bright talent. Who gets game time and Motherwell have security of his services for another two years. Forward thinking.

 

This is the route i'd take as well.

If we don't like how he's progressed, then simply sell after that. If he's progressed well, bleed him into the side - It doesn't need to be that complicated.

 

Bayern get away with that as the clubs they allow the players to stay at are much better than who we would allow to keep the player for a year or two.

There's no massive step up from Leverkusen playing top half Bundesliga and challenging for cups and European slots to Bayern.

The step from Motherwell to Celtic is massive though.
I'd agree the game time for another year or two would benefit Miller more, but not sure it would work as smoothly and seamlessly as the Bayern example.
We would still need pieces to fall in to place for him in a years time and be fingers tightly crossed he stepped up.


Edit.
Not to confuse myself or anything, I do agree and think many young players we look to have or sign, need more game time and the level of Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hibs, etc is good. It's better than sitting in our backup and bench for a year.
But just the jump up is still gonna be big for players.
Ideally we need the league to be better. Perhaps this is one way to allow it to improve, where players remain at their clubs a little longer.


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There was an article saying Motherwell want to at least match the £2.6m from the Turnbull sale for him. I would pay that and loan him back there for the season, it should be one of the benefits of having plenty of money in the bank that we could do that.

The player himself has said he is loving life there so having another season as one of the main men in their team, Motherwell get the player for at least another year and we secure the top prospect in the country.

Yeah there is a lot of competition from EPL but we need to at least try.

 

It would be an absolutely ridiculous decision not to pursue a deal for a promising young talent like Miller. An absolute no brainer he should be snapped up and either given game time this season or loaned back to Motherwell for a year. I don't know how we manage to miss out on good domestic players when they're playing right under our nose but we've done a good job of it in recent years. Get him signed.