What's your opinion of Mark McGhee?

People will think I am completely of my "nut" but hey I guess most of you think that already.

From reading through the posts it seems we all want the same thing a vastly experienced man who has been successfull at a higher level. The general concensous is we would not be able to afford or atract a guy like Hiddink or even a Moyes. Both individuals the majority of fans would love to see in the hot seat.

So if proven correct that these guys are not realistic targets (by the way even a Wenger or a Moriniho wouldnt guarentee success). Then we have to look to up and coming people.

As has been mentioned Mcghee, Levien, Keane, Mowbary or even Lambert.

Mcghee and Levien have somewhat a checkred managerial past with lower league english league clubs. For this reason they are not good options IMO.

Lambert is working at Wycombe and seems to be doing a fine job but he is nowere near ready.

Mowbary is probably the most getable and realistic target. Although I think he would do a fine job I think their would be other names in front of him.

Keane has done a fine job in his early managerial career and if he is half as successfull as a manager as he was a player he will be in high demand. A few have said he is not ready and wait a few years. I think if he carries on the way he is doing then he will be out our reach (in essence he will be looked upon as a higher level of manager). For this reason I think to speculate with him now is maybe a risk worth taking.


Now this is the bit where you will say I am of my "Nut". If I was in charge of the decision making I would fire WGS imiediately and install John Collins as CARETAKER not manager. Although with the guarantee of him being second in comand to a new higher profile manager in the summer.

I would do this for three reasons.

1. I believe whatever chance we have of catching Rangers to the title this season is nil with WGS at the helm. In my view a gamble is worth taking to bring in some fresh ideas that may give the place an instant lift.

2. Who knows by some miracle JC might get us playing over the next 8 or so games and if indeed this was the case I would consider giving him the managers job come the summer. If you think about it he has great contacts especialy within french football and could atract players from the continent in the summer.

3. I also think this summer is so important with regards to who we buy for future seasons and I think a new man brought in now would be able * the current squad before the summer so as to give him more time and a better chance of balancing his squad come the new season.

As most exspect that JC is not experienced enough to do the job as manager as yet "this is a view I also have" however why not give someone like him the oportunity to prove us wrong uptil the summer. I mean what exactly would we have to lose in my view nothing at worst we would gain a top man as second in comand come the summer.

Dose anyone else think this is a good idea or am I off my "Nut"LOL.

 

I'm not talking about you specifically, it was a general comment and a rhetorical question, but there are people that are stating their opinion over and over without anything in the news to add to the debate. If people just looked for the last debate instead of starting off the question again, it would make a big difference.

 

mick mc carthy? * me, easily pleased i could think of 1,000 managers i'd rather have than him. roll me one mate

 

The bottom 4 are the cheap, celtic minded options I think the board may go for as a last resort.

 

i agree with the rest of your list mate its realistic, apart from maybe bilic who said he would consider managing the old firm but i think he'll get a bigger offer, mc carthy is officially the worst manager in premiership history and underachieved badly with a very talented ireland squad, our golden generation, it would break my heart to see that man in charge of celtic

 

john * lambie:icon_mrgreen:

 

well ,how the weather today

 

I think that's a fair enough view of McCarthy although before this season I would've said a similar thing about McGhee.

 

i'd agree with that, but was it mc ghee who got millwall to the FA cup final or had he left by then? he's managed that many clubs its hard to keep up

 

Nah he had left by then, I'm pretty sure it was Dennis Wise that got them to the final some how.

 

Collins is a guy that people would like to see because he was great playing fo us. He has only managed a team for about 5mins then left. He also had the players turn against him. The buys that he made have been awful. So dont think his time is coming any time soon. Could be wrong tho. I know for a fact that he is hoping for the job in the future.

I would mayb consider big Yogi if we donjt have any big name viable options. He believes in the football aspect and would rather his team done that every game. He has been great at geting the best out of young and inexperienced players. Just a thot!!

 

Hes a good manager but I doubt that he could do the job at Celtic. Should stay out of the OF in my opinion although we do need another manager.

 

Im not keen on Mcghee either..

He walked out on Reading for Leicester , Walked out on Leicester for Wolves.. Would have quit Motherwell by now if he'd been given the Scotland job.. Can't blame the guy for wanting to better himself but Celtic can do better than him.. Mick Mccarthy shouldn't even come into the reckoning , Despite having decent success as a club manager in England he just sounds so passionless..

 

john collins for me he would get us back playing the football the way its ment to be played ! just like barca and arsenal....would actually look forward to seeing celts then unlike now where theres no shape or style to there play

 

I would mayb consider big Yogi if we donjt have any big name viable options. He believes in the football aspect and would rather his team done that every game. He has been great at geting the best out of young and inexperienced players. Just a thot!![/quote]


yeah i like yogi too,hes got gr8 personality and im sure players would play alll the btr playing for a guy u can actually like unlike WGS......

 

Totally disagree.. Celtic isn't a club for sentiment when it comes to offering people jobs.. If Collins wants to become a top manager then he needs to find a job in the lower leagues and work his way up like Lambert or Ince are doing.. Collins walked out on a job after steering a team (built by Tony Mowbray) to cup success..

Im not a fan of Charlie Nicholas's punditry , but when he said he wasn't surprised Collins walked out on Hibs because in their time together at Celtic , Collins had struck him as a guy who always looked after self interest , and he knew that staying at Hibs for any longer wouldn't enhance his profile as a manager..

If Collins got the job and didn't meet expectations halfway through our first season he'd end up being punted like Le Guen..

The only option for immediate success is to push the boat out and get someone who has a proven track record in the game , and if they know the European market then even better..

 

We're football fans. We speculate. That's what we do.

 

yea but do u not think collins had a point when he quit hibs ..hibs made 10million or so selling players and JC had them playing gr8 football and won a cup and the board still wouldnt give him money to spend think he was right to quit myself .
yeah collins is full of himself but u gotta be single minded to manage a top club just look at jose mourino!!

its the qualitly football i know he would get celts play that makes me think he'd be right man