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The Poppy and Sunday's Match

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by doctor venglos, Nov 4, 2009.

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  1. doctor venglos

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    I think it is important that the Club and support do the right thing for Sunday's match against Falkirk, and that we do not fall into the trap the Establishment and the Laptop Loyal have set for us over the Poppy Appeal and Remembrance Sunday.

    We do not wish to embarrass ourselves and the Club over this contentious issue, and I believe the best way for all Celtic supporters to go about this, would be for all peace minded Celtic supporters to wear a White Poppy and display White Poppy Banners, in solidarity, and to symbolise the virtues of Love, Peace and Tolerance around the Globe. :shamrock::shamrock::shamrock:
     
  2. technom8t

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    I personnaly do not see why we as celtic supporters, feel the need that we should not wear the red poppy. I find this embarrassing considering that the poppy represents rememberence of soldiers who have died in conflict and not rememberence of the crown or british army. I know that it's a delicate topic because of the troubles in ireland * knows my own family and many others suffered in one way or another because of it. The way i see it is that not all soldiers like what they have to do, but it's there job, not all soldiers were UDA supporting Prodestants who would like nothing more to do away with catholasism. In fact my guess would be that there would be a fair number of soldiers who were just like us, run of the day Celtic supporters, except they are putting there life on the line, as so many have done before them.

    If you can't remember all the soliers who died in conflict there is something gravely wrong with your thinking.No one is asking you support the BA just support the guy's who have/are puting ther lives on the line.

    P.S it's a real shame politics always has to come into things like this, it's deffinetly a tarnish on the normal minded celtic supporter. There is no harm in wearing the red poppy IMO.
     
  3. WEEMAN7

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    Its a waste of time mate. There are too many plastic paddys in scotland who are * bent on showing their disregard for anything other than their own political views at celtic park.
     
  4. DanniGhirl

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    It should be personal choice whether to wear a poppy or not and that choice should be respected by all.

    Remembrance should never be interrupted though and anyone that does interrupt a minutes silence is the lowest of the low imo.
     
  5. col_p67

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    How about red shamrocks?
     
  6. technom8t

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    Sadly i have to agree mate, it's such a shame. I wonder if these same people with that kind of thinking had a brother or sister who joined the army, and * forbid, something when't wrong and they were seriouly hurt or worse killed, would they have the same views about rememberence.I'm thinking not.

    P.S I also think that most would not even know if they had a great /great great grand parent who died in one of the wars. If they did and found out would there views about remeberence all of a suden change?
     
  7. technom8t

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    Who would that be in remeberence of?
     
  8. paulmitchell

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    Thats about it mate.

    Celtic are a british based team with predominantly british supporters who have either been part of the british army or have friends and family who are part of the british army, quite possibly even died fighting for the british army and I believe that if they want to show their remembrance by wearing a poppy to the football or anywhere else then they should without it being an issue. If you dont want to wear a poppy then dont but dont take the argument to the football.

    Even though Celtic have strong Irish connections, at the end of the day they are a football club in britain.

    Anyway, all politics should be kept away from football.
     
  9. celticniall

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    All politics should be kept away from football, and hence I believe there should be no poppys of any kind at the game.

    If poppys are allowed, then so should political songs and political banners.

    Double standards!
     
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    I agree to an extent, but as said above somewhere, they should keep all the poppys and silences away from football unless it's a football related matter and then a silence/applause should be done.
     
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    Im all for the minutes silence because I feel that the only reason we do not speak German is due to the thousands of men who gave their lives to win the Wars. On the other hand I am Irish and I dont like to buy a poppey as that for me is paying for all the memorials that are put up aound the UK for those who fell in Ireland and that makes me sick.

    There was a man from Belfast who got a VC awarded in WW2. Now at rememberance days in NI this man was never remembered as he was a Catholic. So I ask why should we honour all the fallen by wearing the poppy when the money raised does not even go towards a memorial for the man. He had to make do with a Murial in East Belfast covered in Union Jacks and so on. So to me the Murial was used as a Taunt to the Catholic population. Anyone who wants to read the link is below

    James Joseph Magennis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  12. kennydal

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    Thought i was in Celtic Chat there :rolleyes:
     
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    i agree you shouldnt feel the need to wear a poppy,
    my family are irish ,unfortunately they were caught up in
    two world wars and some were born in britain like me.
    weither i like it or not im british.weither we like it or not
    celtic are british.the match on sunday is in britain and rightly
    or wrongly a minutes silence has been decided.
    celtics good reputation is at stake,if it is disrupted it will be
    reported all over the world.
    * for tat over James Josef Magennis will only make us look
    as bad as the bigots who overlooked his memory.
    i would never think any less of anyone who doesnt wear a
    poppy and feels strongly enough not to attend the minutes
    silence.but please dont give them what they are hoping for.
     
  14. martyc7

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    You clearly did not grow up in the north of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ireland</st1:place></st1:country-region> where these so called 'heroes' abused and assulted an innocent community. Tortured and murdered people for no other reason than their religion. What about the innocent people killed by the british army do they get a rememberance?? I have no problem with you or anyone else wearing a poppy but I could never bring myself to wear one! I would never support a cause that (bizarrely) so many people are claiming is about freedom. That in itself is laughable, where was the concern for Irish freedom when they were illegally occupying our country? <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    I as a Celtic fan do not feel I should be pushed into showing support for this cause, and I equally feel it is unfair of the people on here who claim that if someone doesnt like it they should just not go to the game. I and any other fan who share’s my opinion have as much right to be there as anyone else.<o:p></o:p>
     
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    Remember last season when the plastic provos walked out of parkhead because we wore a poppy on our jersey. I hope they dont do anything stupid during the minutes silence on sunday. If they do, i'd ban them for life
     
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    Oh hello Mr.Chairman, didn't know you posted on here. Anyway, I for one would walk out of Celtic Park any day of the week where an Imperalist brutal army are remembered. "they were doing their job"??? I think you're referring here to conscription and the world wars, the soldiers who fought/are figting in the troubles in Ireland, Iraq, Afghan and so on cannot be describe it as against their will. Surely when you join an army involved in such conflict you want to take part in it. The poppy for me represents an imperalist empire * bound on retaining the power that don't deserve.

    'Plastic Provos'? Grow up!! Its nothing to do with being a republican or a 'Provo' as you so immaturely put it, it's to do with an unwillingness to support a corrupt regime who, echoing martyc's post, enforce a brutal regime in whichever country they feel they own.
     
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    There's a certain way you talk to people on here and your way isnt the right way ,by all means answer a post but when you say things ,like "Grow up" its called Flaming ,its your 2nd post so your new ,but if your unsure about Flaming or anything else ,at the top of the page the rules are set out to cover all the do's and dont's.
     
  18. martyc7

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    What ever happened to Celtic being a socialist club? By putting a poppy on a Celtic jersey you are saying Celtic support an oppressive, imperalist Army who have been are are currently involved in illegal wars!!
     
  19. lincoln

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    read and understood, ill refrain in future. However do you not think a term such as 'Platic provos' only incites uncomfort. I think when you make such a bold statement youre asking for trouble. The thread has nothing to do the provisionals, and keep in mind they've been out of action for how many years.....
     
  20. lincoln

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    at least someone on here has a bit of sense....
     
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