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Spending???? Not building from a position of strengh

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Dirk_Diggler, Aug 2, 2011.

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  1. Dirk_Diggler

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    Came accross this article wrote by joratim onn celtic hub and i would like to know people views, there are some pieces in this that are exactly what most of us feel.



    Joratim – Are the Board at It Again?

    by WINNER67 on AUGUST 2, 2011 · 14 COMMENTS


    Are the Board at It Again?

    By Joratim.

    Do not intend to do a long boring article. Would just ask a few questions.

    I would refer to an article of mine, many months ago, spoke about the failure of the “high heid yins”, not to offer another couple of thousand grand for Fletcher.

    At that point, we were ahead of the diddy team under the control of he with no surname. Only needed about 4, maybe 5 goals to secure the championship.

    He with the service would have provided this. Think about what he has been sold on for:

    Those few goals would have destroyed the south side, their loss of revenue from the champions league would have hung them out to dry.

    What is the current situation?

    They are signing, might be Numpties, don’t know yet:

    I would now ask some questions.

    3 years past in January, did the board make a decision to allow the other mob the advantage to keep them in business?

    Conspiracy: Think it could have been.

    Why are we not signing?

    Does the board, like others before them, really believe that we have enough?

    If they do, they should remind themselves of the refereeing decisions of last season.

    They, if they are real Celtic people must know it will be even worse this season, as the others are having problems.

    When they have problems, they get the benefit.

    Anyone who has any knowledge of the game must realise that our team is still short of players in certain areas.

    We obviously need a goalkeeper of decent standard, need another class centre back plus someone up front to turn the chances into goals.

    Many chances on Saturday to score a few, never mention individuals, you know who they were.

    Have to believe that Lenny, Mallby, Thomson and Parker, due to their long time experience must have seen this.

    Final question.

    Due to the extra sales in season books this season, (due in no small measure to the improvements made last season by the above mentioned management team), are those who sit on the board, those who control the finances, those who could take the step forward to take us to the next level, laughing at us, taking us for granted, safe in the knowledge that we will always there?

    Could be that I am frustrated due to the lack of activity, but have to say, that I have seen this so many times before in my long years as a supporter.

    Why do we never build from strength? Why do we always allow those other people the opportunity to catch up with us? Would it happen if we were almost down and out? Don’t think so:

    I believe that the current board are using us once again, treating us with contempt, failing to support the manager and allowing us to become a big fish, (maybe once again the 2nd biggest fish) in a wee pool.

    In writing this, I am desperately hoping that what I’ve said is wrong, and that from somewhere, a rebel voice will sound out in the boardroom, and say, “those people who love our club deserve better”


    Thoughts people???
     
  2. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Totally agree. We should be questioning the situation now, rather than wait until the end of the season when another title might be gone.

    Why is Lawell. an official that has overseen the disaster of the last 3 seasons on more wages than the majority of players?

    What power has he , that he can come out and say that there is no pressure on Lennon should he fail to deliver. Lawell has failed to deliver himself over the last 3 seasons. The pressure should be on him.

    Who does he answer to?

    I want to know why we are not signing players and the Orcs are. They have been going bust for 3 seasons now, yet miraculously have won 3 titles, managed to sign a £4m player last season and are actively pursuing targets again.

    We are taking nobodies on trial.

    The more we question our boards policies, the more questions there are to ask.
     
  3. evilbunny1991

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    He is completely correct about the board never building from a position of strength, we have seen it at least two or three times in the last decade or so, the board or lawell keeps spouting stuff about how europe is important for us the club and the fans etc... yet does nothing to ensure or increase our chances of actually participating in these competitions.

    They seem to like the sound of their own voice and have actually no intention of improving this squad, we are in a position of strength after a consolidating year, buy the necessary goalkeeper and striker. Just get it done.
     
  4. Dirk_Diggler

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    Everything is made out to be hunky dorry but its * not, we have made a massive improvement from last year and seem happy not to spend anything and go with what we have, we have that * philosphy thats * us in the past, and i am frustrated that the hunns have won 3 titles in a row and they have been in a poor poor state, our board cant allow this * to happen ever again, so cheque book out please mr lawell
     
  5. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I mostly agree with what you're saying but I don't think that two of the last 3 seasons can be described as complete disasters due to the fact that we won a trophy in two of them.

    Completely agree that there should be more urgency to find a suitable GK and that not doing so could cost us the league, the thing that we want and need the most.
     
  6. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Your right, last season wasnt a disaster. I was putting the 3 seasons together since the Jan window in WGS's last term. His last 6 months were a disaster as the side collapsed, I believe, because we didnt sign a striker to bolster the side.

    Mowbrays stint was an unmitigated disaster though. He wasnt first choice and we clearly didnt show the ambition for Owen Coyle to leave Burnley. Though he did a short while later for Bolton, who clearly showed more ambition than us. I blame that on the board. Who ended up paying a fortune for there mistake.

    I dont want to call last season a disaster because that is unfair on Neil Lennon, but we still lost the league,which is always hard.
     
  7. The Prof Administrator Administrator

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    I agree with some of whats been said but last seasons failure to win the League cannot be blamed on the board, in WGS's last season the team were 2 games away from securing 4 iar but couldn't manage it.

    However it dosen't look good the fact that we're scampering around for a GK when the season has already begun.
     
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    * off we're scrambling for a goal-keeper at this stage, Celtic should have this * sorted.

    Lack of activity is pathetic.
     
  9. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Agree Prof, but they were culpable in not letting Strachan have the funds to sign Fletcher. We were 7 points ahead in the January window, but screaming out for a striker. Everyone knew it and they did nothing. It cost us.And in then appointing Mowbray, who wasnt a first choice pick. They got it wrong and it cost us a lot of money to get right. Last season, they couldnt even commit to getting Neil on a proper contract.

    They werent indirectly correct, but their dithering, penny pinching attitude has been responsible in my opinion. You could argue that they have steered the club well financially, but failure to invest when we needed it, ie, when we were dominant, has cost us a fortune in possible CL money, and taken us a step back when we should be strides ahead.
     
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    Aye Kemo, can't disagree with what your saying mate, the last few years have been very frustrating on many levels.
     
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    Hope were not having the same discussion next May!

    Am sure we wont, I think Lennon is exuding more confidence this season, even early on. Just hope the board are going to give him the support he needs.
     
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    boards lackadaisical attitudes benefitted rangers immensely imo.if we make the same mistake of taking their financial position for granted as an advantage-and subsequently fail to strengthen we will be totally *,this is the season the board needs to put up or * off
     
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    Agreed. We're taking in 20mil for season tickets a year. Thats just one of our incomes. If a keeper costs 4-5 mil then pay it and get one. If the huns can spend 4mil on Jelavic and 1.5 on Wallace then we should be matching or bettering.

    End of.

    Finger out.

    Get it sorted.
     
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    Even though I hate Manchester United (sorry holy pope) I still respect Sir Alex and the way the club goes about their business, I think they are one of the best examples on how to run your club (in some senses), what I'm getting at is look at how they did there summer business, they knew they needed a GK, a young CB to replace the aging Ferdinand and another flair player and eureka, even before there preseason had really started they got all three in so they could spend the majority of the preseason meshing with there new teammates. And us? We will be lucky to have a new keeper in by the Europa qualifier.
     
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    I am very dissapointed in the spending. We have bought a CH who I am not sure is the sort that we need. Most importantly we have not bought a 2nd CH. I dont think any of last seasons CHs are up to standard although Mulgrew is decent backup. We have not signed a striker. No goalie either. So, we are starting the season like last with us being one injury from a having really dodgy CD or CF area plus a worrying GK situation. I basically think we are no better now than last season and the GK issue may even make us weaker. If we were up against Rangers with Wattie in charge I would be expecting it to go to the wire again. Luckily for us its Swally and a weaker Rangers side.
     
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    agree time we started spending instead of thinking what weve got is good enough to win the league. the huns have been on there knees the last 3 seasons & still won the league.
     
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    :50:im getting enoyed with the lack of effort buying the players we obviiusly need.didnt replace boric or spend mcgeadys money,the board should build quick on what we have and act quicker selling dead wood...
     
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    imo in strachan's last season we lost the league in january the failute to spend any money . we should have pushed the boat and got fletcher and now this season we could be looking at 7 ina a row
     
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    Disagree. We are significantly better than last season, for the reason that last season we made the decision to go back to basics and field an extremely young team. A bold decision - and even in this first year we came within an ace of winning the title. In fact we would have won it, but for Smith managing to compile Rangers' 2nd-highest points total in SPL history.

    This season, all those young players have a year's more experience, and a year of playing together and bonding into a unit. That makes a significant difference. If we had signed no-one, we would have been is a stronger position than last year. Whereas in fact we've signed a CB who's looked very good so far, and two more promising young players for next season and the seasons to come.

    Of course, I agree we need a keeper. But I'd be astounded if we don't have one by the time the window closes. Which, lest we forget, is still four whole weeks away.
     
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    I agree with a lot of that but right now I think we have again left it to chance by no new GK, no 2nd new CH and no new striker. I think we still have the same basic weaknesses down the spine. Even if we have a pretty good 1st 11 we are one injury away from having to play unsatisfactory CHs, strikers etc. Our squad is unbalance in that we are coming down with MF and FB options but have no depth of any quality at CH and CF not to mention the goalie issue. I dont think even our first 11 is very strong at CH and CF. We have a lot of players who are a mix of good and bad attributes in those positions. Its a shame because we are strong in the CM, wide MF and FB areas. I just see us entering this season with the same worries unless we get in a goalie, CH and CF.