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Sandro Tonali Banned for 10 months

Discussion in 'World Football' started by Notorious, Oct 26, 2023.

Discuss Sandro Tonali Banned for 10 months in the World Football area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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  2. Zander Gold Member Gold Member

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    Silly boy
     
  3. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I think the bans are harsh, it's not as if they are match fixing. Stupid betting on football as a player though but 10 month and year bans are mental. Should be like 5 or 10 League game bans and maybe banned from European games for a season.
     
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  4. Mr. Slippyfist

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    * liek betting on football when you're a footballer HAS and CAN lead to match fixing.

    Bans aren't strong enough, imo. Especially if you're betting on your own team.
     
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  5. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    What about a player who heavily backs his own team to win or a player who backs himself to score ? Thats not cheating/fixing a match. But, I assume, under the current rules they would also be banned.. which is pretty dumb tbh.
     
  6. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Aye, in that instance it's NOT match fixing.

    But guess what, you're still not allowed to gamble on fitbaw when you're a footballer.

    So no sympathy whatsoever.
     
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  7. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    I think we can all agree that this is an example of the rules being OTT, which happens from time to time in a lot of things.
     
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    It is match fixing to a certain extent.

    Take the example of last night. Atletico are clearly playing for a draw in the last 10 minutes so a bunch of people will stick an in-play bet for a draw.

    How is that fair if guys on the pitch have a completely unaccounted for financial incentive that literally no one knows about, including their own manager, to force the result of the game another way?

    Okay not as bad as throwing a game, but it’s still completely unacceptable and it is going to encourage a type of match fixing.

    Aside from that, I can sympathise with any player with addiction and I think that should be taken into account.
     
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  9. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Technically I reckon you are probably right but my example, while breaking the rules, shows that not all players bets can be seen as being bent/dodgy imo anyway.
    Personally speaking if I knew that the team last night had all clubed together and placed 100k/250k on us winning Id be happy with that, however had they backed us to lose or draw it would be a different reaction from me obviously.
    So, in theory, I wouldn't have an issue with players betting on games they feature in, provided it was on positive results for their team.
    I'm not sure how the example you gave would fit in to this tbh so perhaps thats why its simply a blanket ban, as thats easier to understand/investigate if required.

    * knows, have you ever had the feeling you stumbled into something you hadn't quiet thought through properly ..
    I just have :giggle1:
     
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  10. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    But how many of those bets were on his own team or positive? Toney bet on his own team to lose 13 times yet only got a 6 month ban. Over 200 other bets, and he would have contacts at various other clubs as would Tonali. I feel they have gotten off lightly, very lightly. I actually believe Toney should have had at least 6 months for every time he backed his own team to lose.
     
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    Silly boy, sympathise with him if it’s an addiction. Just don’t bet on football, it’s in black and white (no pun intended)

    The ban may be fair, may be harsh but it is mental when you compare it to Cantona getting 9 months for literally Bruce leeing some * in the stands
     
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  12. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    How do they even find out?

    "Big toni, paddy Power just said you've won too much money off them so are sticking ye in.."
     
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  13. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    I've no idea mate but, as i said, if the bet/s was on his team to win/him to score - not an OG either - then I didn't see much of a problem. However, obviously, if bets are being made for their team/s to lose that is totally different and should be hammered.
     
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    Only most days
     
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    Got greedy and has to face the music if you ask me. The game is already * enough with dodgy referees without players adding betting into the mix
     
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    Probably as simple as that :giggle1:

    I mean if they were making thousands off him every week they would probably keep quiet lol
     
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    The length seems massively harsh.

    But I also guess it depends on what betting he has done.

    If it's simple bets on random games he isn't involved in, then I think a few games is fine.

    If it's bets on games he is involved in, then maybe this is an acceptable punishment.



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    You don't know that's not match-fixing. He could be doing it with other players. He's a pro footballer, so they'll all naturally know each other. Or if it's a gambling syndicate it could be a quid pro quo scenario where he's given info on another fix in return for his cooperation...

    In my opinion, I've no issue whatsoever with players gambling - they're adults, and should be allowed their leisure activities. But I'd insist that every bet they make in relation to ANY game, in ANY league, is capped off to a small amount and needs to be registered by the club. Any unusual trends would be obvious soon, the returns wouldn't be more than casual money and it would also allow protection of them if vulnerable to addiction.
     
  19. Doogs. Lustig your the one, you still turn me on.

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    I’m sure he was betting with mafia bookies in Italy as well the mad * :giggle1:
     
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  20. BigWilly Free Palestine and Ukraine Gold Member

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    I wonder if Milan knew about this when they sold him