Orangemen/Loyalists

my da tells me stories of talking with orangemen and loyalists and the like (when he was in canada of course), he always said he didn't understand them as they always contradicted themselves, one stood out for me

he hates the english, he hates the royal family, yet him and every member of his family wear a sash, why? no idea, apparently he got really drunk one time before going to a union meeting and shouted "i had to join the lodge, i needed a job," (@ my da),

it's weird that an orangeman would renounce his "faith" so openly

just me trying to understand the troubles without being completely biased towards republicans and more of me trying to understand... "them"

thoughts?

 

TBH i don't understand 'them.'
For some reason they feel the need to march through nationalist areas when they could just march through they're own, and be hassle free.

I suppose if it's not annoying anybody, why march?

 

To the OP.

You will find the majority of those who join the Orange Order,do for one reason.....to antagonise a certain sector of the population.

 

i can understand why they protested against the catholic religion for a many of reasons .. but i dont understand why scottish people would love the brits when you read the history between 2 of them .. when the world cup comes they will be wearing england shirts its sick ? ...

 

they do this so they can keep the hatred and a * battle going thats all. sad shower of * the lot of them and half if not all aint got a clue about half the * they like to shout either.

like loving king arshole for one, hired by england to more or less liquadate the scots!

 

tbh mate, you could get more sence out of a dug than 'them', i mean listen to there chants "why dont they go home" now.... look at there players Davis, there own fans from N.Ireland. I mean they even sell england taps outside ipox. There scum mate scotlands shame!

 

Fellas, you do know that painting an entire fairly large group with the same brush is fairly sectarian which, as we all know, is a fancy word for racist

 

its a group whose entire existence breeds hatred and exclusion. you wouldnt join an organisation like that if you had even half a brain.

I would say the same about the KKK. Am i being 'racist' towards them in your book?

It woulb be racist if i said every white is a member of the KKK.

Your point would stand if we said every * was an orange hun *, but i dont recall anyone saying that?

Keep your PC'ness over your side of the water.

 

This large group,to a man,insist on marching through nationalist areas,so therefor the organisation can be tarred with the same brush.

 

Can someone tell me is there a difference between an orangeman/loyalist and someone who's in a Masonic lodge??
I'm not being daft, just haven't a clue if they're one of the same kind.?

 

the masons is a charitable organisation mate and any race ,religeon can join. it has hee haw to do with the orange order at all.

 

lol mate most orange order lodges i know in glasgow have a mason sign above the door are the masons not secretly against the catholic church ?

 

no! the make a charitable donations to the needy! my boss is the top man in his area and they have just donated a * load of money to chas,like they do every year and they are stepping it up more to give to them.

Freemasonry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The fraternity is widely involved in charity and community service activities. In contemporary times, money is collected only from the membership, and is to be devoted to charitable purposes. Freemasonry worldwide disburses substantial charitable amounts to non-Masonic charities, locally, nationally and internationally.[47][48] In earlier centuries, however, charitable funds were collected more on the basis of a Provident or Friendly Society, and there were elaborate regulations to determine a petitioner's eligibility for consideration for charity, according to strictly Masonic criteria.
Some examples of Masonic charities include:

• Homes[49] that provide sheltered housing or nursing care.
• Education with both educational grants[50] or schools such as the Royal Masonic School (UK)[51] which are open to all and not limited to the families of Freemasons.
• Medical assistance.[52]
• Masonic Child Identification Programs (CHIP).

In addition to these, there are thousands of philanthropic organisations around the world created by Freemasons. The Masonic Service Association,[53] the Masonic Medical Research Laboratory,[54] and the Shriners Hospitals for Children[55] are especially notable charitable endeavours that Masons have founded and continue to support both intellectually and monetarily

 

pope is a mason apparently. so is Blair, hes marrried to a catholic, in fact hes converted now :bbpd:

 

there just bigots with a 1 track mind horrible discusting * if you were to sit n ask them why there in the Orange Order .. theyd turn round n said cos my da was or cos im a rangers fan there dumb as * n should be shot !

ano the last bits a bit harsh but they make me feel sick

 

an to eb fair the team that one us the european cup there was 4-5 mabe more masons in that read that in the 2nd edition of the celtic minded book

 

Never understood any of it and never will.

I guess it's what you have to sign up for if you want to become a ref.

 

thats kinda what im on about, ive never blamed the loyalist community in northern ireland because they were indoctrinated in this * from a young age

you cannot blame the republicans because after the border campaign, there was little or no ira activity in the north, it was in 1969 when the ira took its first offensive,

can you blame the british government? yah, you can, but that isnt really saying anything, its just blaming the prime benefactor of a war in the six counties

it comes down to serious social issues that have been a problem for centuries, that stem from the simple, but effective, english tactic of divide & conquer, that sees wars around the world and sees sectarianism and violence everywhere in their "kingdom"

 

Some of them are sound..remember this guy: