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Keano's new book: the Second Half

Discussion in 'World Football' started by Seosamh Máirtín, Oct 6, 2014.

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Seosamh Máirtín

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I didn't even know he had one coming out! I am glad he's chosen Roddy Doyle as a co-writer, too. I love the man's writing. Just per-ordered it.

Anyone else going to give it a read?

Seosamh Máirtín, Oct 6, 2014

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A little sample of more to come, I'm sure:

Roy Keane has revealed he warned Alex Ferguson against taking on the Irish racehorse owner John Magnier and JP McManus in the Rock Of Gibraltar dispute that backfired on Manchester United and put in place the chain of events that led to the Glazer family’s takeover.
Keane is heavily critical of Ferguson for pursuing the legal case and says he went to see the United manager to tell him he was taking on the wrong men and that it would have serious repercussions for the club.
Yet Ferguson ignored him and the dispute over stud fees for Rock Of Gibraltar, the retired racehorse, started to have damaging ramifications at Old Trafford, with Magnier and McManus using their position as major shareholders to submit their infamous 99 Questions document, predominantly looking at 13 transfers from the Ferguson era.
“Somebody I met in Ireland had told me to tell him [Ferguson]: ‘You are not going to win this,’ Keane writes in his new book, ‘The Second Half’. “I mentioned it to him. And I told him that I didn’t think it was good for the club, the manager in a legal dispute with shareholders.
“I felt I was entitled to say that. He was just a mascot for them. Walking around with this Rock Of Gibraltar – ‘Look at me, how big I am,’ – and he didn’t even own the * thing.”
Keane also reveals the details of his explosive departure from United in 2005, claiming a training ground bust-up with Ferguson and the assistant Carlos Queiroz made his Old Trafford exit inevitable. The former midfielder also detailed an incident where he head-butted Peter Schmeichel, leaving the goalkeeper with a black eye.
Keane’s shock departure was widely believed to be down to an interview with MUTV in which the Irishman criticised a number of his team-mates following a lacklustre performance in a 4-1 defeat by Middlesbrough. But Keane explains in the new book that a fierce falling out on a pre-season training camp on the Algarve proved the final straw.
“He was just on my right shoulder; how I didn’t * hit him again – I was thinking, ‘The villa in Portugal, not treating me well in training – and he just used the word “loyalty” to me,’” said Keane about Queiroz.
“I said, ‘Don’t you * talk to me about loyalty, Carlos. You left this club after 12 months a few years ago for the Real Madrid job. Don’t you dare question my loyalty. I had opportunities to go to Juventus and Bayern Munich.’ And while we’re at it we spoke about training downstairs. And were just on about mixing things up in training a bit.”
Keane went on to reveal that Ferguson soon stepped in, saying: “‘That’s enough. I’ve had enough of all this’,” which prompted the midfielder to round on his manager, replying: “You as well gaffer. We need * more from you. We need a bit more, gaffer. We’re slipping behind other teams.”

Manchester United fined Keane £5,000 for the MUTV interview but when Ferguson dropped him from a reserve game in which he was supposed to continue his rehabilitation from a broken foot, the Irishman knew the writing was on the wall. Keane claims that Ferguson and David Gill had prepared a written statement to confirm his departure and further angered him by getting the length of his service at Old Trafford wrong.
Keane continued: “I said to Ferguson, ‘Can I play for somebody else?’ And he said, ‘Yeah you can, cos we’re tearing up your contract’. So I thought, ‘All right – I’ll get fixed up.’ I knew there’d be clubs in for me when the news got out. I said, ‘Yeah – I think we have come to the end.’ I just thought, ‘* *’ – and I stood up and went ‘Yeah. I’m off.’”
Keane also said he regrets attempting to reconcile with Ferguson and Queiroz a few days later. “Now I kind of wish I hadn’t. Afterwards I was thinking, ‘I’m not sure why I * apologised.’ I just wanted to do the right thing. I was apologising for what had happened – that it had happened. But I wasn’t apologising for my behaviour or stance. There’s a difference – I had nothing to apologise for.”
Keane’s bust-up with Schmeichel came much earlier in his Manchester United career, on their pre-season tour to Asia in 1998, with the midfielder adding: “I had a bust-up with Peter when we were on a pre-season tour of Asia, in 1998, just after I came back from my cruciate injury. I think we were in Hong Kong. There was drink involved.
“He said, ‘I’ve had enough of you, It’s time we sorted this out.’ So I said ‘Okay’ and we had a fight. It felt like 10 minutes. There was a lot of noise – Peter’s a big lad. I woke up the next morning. I kind of vaguely remembered the fight. My hand was really sore and one of my fingers was bent backwards.
“The manager had a go at us as we were getting on the bus, and people were going on about a fight in the hotel the night before. It started coming back to me - the fight between me and Peter.
“In the meantime, Nicky * had been filling me in on what had happened the night before. Butty had refereed the fight. Anyway, Peter had grabbed me, I’d head-butted him – we’d been fighting for ages. At the press conference, Peter took his sunglasses off. He had a black eye. The questions came at him: ‘Peter, what happened to your eye?’”
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http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...on-irish-duo-over-rock-of-gibraltar-1.1953737

Seosamh Máirtín, Oct 6, 2014

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Guy is so full of * it's unbelievable.

Senna s1979, Oct 6, 2014

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Going to get this book, loved his last book

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Definitely wouldn't say he's full of *. Prob one of the most honest footballers out there, if he would have been a yes man then he would still be at utd instead of the gormless " I like * my brothers wife " Higgs

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I take what he says with a pinch of salt.

Nasser, Oct 6, 2014

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Hes a * but some of the extracts ive seen are hilarious, definitely worth a read.

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Keane is the guy who is telling the truth so i would like to read it.

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This'll be a great read will definitely be getting it

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‘Look at me, how big I am,’

He has a fair old cheek saying that against anyone else!
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Defo going to buy this. The thing with Keane is, as much as people think hes arrogant, a thug etc.. No matter what he says, you know he would have no problem saying these things directly to the people involved.

Its a great shame the way his man utd career ended.. It seems like he has turned on his own team mates who he achieved so much with. At times he is overly hostile. But in a time when sport is riddled with cliches, his interviews and openness can be refreshing.

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As much of a * as he is, I'll definitely be reading it.

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Apparently he's wrote in his book that he turned down the Celtic job because the board were absolute * and offered a ridiculous contract with loads of really restrictive clauses. Pretty much confirms what we all ready knew.

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Elephant Stone said: ↑

Apparently he's wrote in his book that he turned down the Celtic job because the board were absolute * and offered a ridiculous contract with loads of really restrictive clauses. Pretty much confirms what we all ready knew.
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Not quite true, the extracts are readily available already.

As always with Keane it was all about him, that's what I took from it. He says right job wrong time, I hope to * the 'right time' never materialises.

PaulM1888, Oct 7, 2014

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I thought he didnt take it because he sensed the fans didnt want him.

Anyway, i cant stand him.
Kind of annoyed he has the * lickers job at Villa, as i have liked them for a long time now, and enjoyed seeing PL bringing his young players through...but now that * will be looking to take the credit for any subsequent success in volume 3 no doubt!

"Villa were going nowhere...Lambo begged me for weeks to come in and sort it out.Id just finished battering some Arab sheikh for not paying me the million dollars i won off him in a poker game and thought, well, it will pass the time for a while.Lambo was in tears when i said ok....i'll fix them for ye."

mygirlmaria, Oct 7, 2014

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Elephant Stone said: ↑

Apparently he's wrote in his book that he turned down the Celtic job because the board were absolute * and offered a ridiculous contract with loads of really restrictive clauses. Pretty much confirms what we all ready knew.
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He says the contract offer was non negotiable and the assistant was already picked. Did mention the restrictive clauses but he's mainly slabbering about not being wanted enough.

Speaking in his new autobiography The Second Half, the 43-year-old recalled the moment Celtic made their move in late May.

‘I got a call: would I go and have a chat with Dermot Desmond? I’d met him once before, in 2005, when I was signing to play for Celtic.
‘I met him for a cup of tea. It was in the middle of an international week, in Dublin.

‘At the end of the chat, he said: 'The job is yours'.
‘It was all pretty straightforward. There would be one or two restrictions, about staff. They had already picked the man who would be my assistant and they were insisting on him.
‘It didn’t scare me off but it did get me thinking. It wasn’t an ideal start. Were they doubting me already?
‘I came back to the team hotel and spoke to Martin (O’Neill). I told him I would have a think about it.
‘We (the Republic of Ireland) had a game against Italy at Craven Cottage in London on the following Saturday.

‘The fact I had spoken to Dermot Desmond had become public knowledge.
‘It had to, because Martin had a press conference and a few things had been leaked — as usual.
‘I was delighted. It was a massive compliment. Over the years, I had always said: “If you’re offered the Celtic job, you don’t turn it down”.
‘I was in a predicament ...and my gut feeling was saying: 'You’re on your own with this one'.

‘I asked Paul Gilroy, the League Managers’ Association lawyer, to speak to Celtic to discuss terms. Money hadn’t been mentioned yet.
‘I got in touch with Celtic’s chief executive, Peter Lawwell and asked him to give me a ballpark figure before negotiations got going.
‘He mentioned a figure and he said: 'But that’s it'. Paul told me there were a lot of clauses in the contract that he wasn’t happy with. And the figures were non-negotiable.

‘I got my head around that. But it felt a bit too familiar. I had been down this road before when I signed for Celtic as a player.
‘I felt they wanted me but they weren’t showing how much they wanted me.
‘We played Italy on the Saturday and I had a message on my phone on Sunday from Dermot Desmond.
‘They wanted a heads-up by tomorrow, Monday.
‘I thought about the Celtic offer. It wasn’t rocking my boat.
‘They weren’t convincing me: 'Listen, you’re the man for us'.
‘I went to Paul Gilroy’s house (on Sunday night). There were things I wasn’t happy with in the contract. But I know if you examined every clause too carefully, you would never sign anything.
‘I rang Dermot Desmond on the Monday and said: 'I’m really honoured you offered me the job but I want to stay with Martin'.

He said: ‘Had Celtic shown enough in their negotiating, 'we’ll move this, you can take that' — a bit of give and take — I might have hesitated.
‘They just didn’t show me that they wanted me and I was happier staying in the Ireland job.
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He's a * manager

James, Oct 7, 2014

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Regardless of how * a manager is I'm really worried if that's our recruitment policy that he has described.

FrankMcCallum, Oct 7, 2014

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Can't stand this guy..

Said ages ago he'd blab away and I'm surprised it's took this long..

Sounds like a come and get me plea in future in all of that..

Nah your alright Roy..

McChiellini.., Oct 7, 2014

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would have shooken up celtic park and also the board. he's no Yes man, thats for sure.

would have demanded funds and a quality calibre of playera and would not have settled for 3rd rate signings.

he would have been great here.

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