fans behind WGS and finally pointing fingers at the board

I think the fans seem to now be more behind WGS than at any point prevously. I also think the fans, rightly, are now pointing the finger at the board rather than the manager when it comes to disappointment over signings. We dont know what budget WGS was given for fees and wages but it clearly wasnt enough to capture our 1st, 2nd maybe even 3rd choice targets for various positions. Thoughs??

 

whats yours ?

 

as much as i'd love to have seen us splash the cash i think the board know exactly what they're doing. our summer targets haven't worked out so we're not panic buying, if things need changed in january we'll have the money to do so.

i'd say i'm right behind the board and WGS even though his transfer targets dont fill me full of confidence at times, 3 in a row though.......

 

Good points, but i think its also to do with more understanding of how we are run, as in strachan sets a list and tells lawell to get them sort of thing.

 

its a new format of posing questions rather than giving opinions to start threads:icon_mrgreen: Personally I think the board have drip fed WGS throught and he never was able to meet the market value or wages of cut and dry expereinced known quality players. Hence a lot of cheeapish gambles. Hoped it would change this summer with a couple of years profit but nah

 

I like what he has acheived here and what he could acheive, my only problem is, i dont think he is very brave at time's he need's to be, with subs and even starters being a starting point, i often read things said by player's and it's mostly all positive, ie McGeady saying he has become a more complete player under him... wich to an outsider might seem golden straw-ish but for me as a fan i have seen what he has added to his game since the mon era, with defence being the most impressive. Overall i do and alway have thought he was a good appointment by the board, as for the board well i dont know but i'm sure they know what there doing, and i espesially like the bussiness they did with crosas, it's a system that could bennifit many team's and i hope it's the start of a good relationship with the like's of barca and man u ect in term's of similar deal's in the future.

so 10/10 wgs and a fair 8/10 for the coffers

 

i back both as i have had enogh of doubting both and getting on strachens back last season so i trust both but i'm still hoping for a quick deal before the end-If not our squad will look much better once jan n scott are 100%fit

 

100% behind the board and WGS.
Financially we are in a very strong position. No point putting that in peril over a few signings which may or may not work out.
Ask Leeds Utd. about extravegance - look where they have ended up.

 

personally I think WGS has done amazing to assemble the current squad with limited resource through modest purchases and coaching youth. IMO duds just come with the territory when you are paying 1-3 million quid and offering modest wages for most of your players when thats utter peanuts in England. It looks like the board have never sanctioned more than a few million net spend (spending minus sales) in any of WGS's years. Talk of spending 10, 12, 15 or 20 million outright in a ckise season has proved to be fantasy.

Despite that, I believe this is the year it will all click and we will see WGS's vision which we have only seen in glimpses until now. One proviso-we dont have serious injuries to key players.

 

100% agree with everything u have sed but not with the bravery. prime example (caldwell-balde situation) 98% of fans sed caldwell wasnt good enough(still probably isnt) but he stuck by him when fans wer crying out for balde and look what happend, he was 1 of if not our best player the last 6 months.

 

yep i agree i was also one of the caldwell haters lol but i admit 110% i was wrong and wgs was spot on...it seems a few more kinks need sorted before there a real solid partnership for example i know wgs keeps on at him to just hoof it away if unsure rather than his normal instinct wich when he first signed was to play it out... past 5-6 games though he has did the hoofin first and i gotta say im well impressed with his progress.


I remember when wgs first appeared public and he said he was aiming to build the fastest attacking team in scotland, does anyone think this is now becoming the case or do ya think he's changed tac? personally i think he know's exactly what he wants from his players and it's all starting to make sense now, esp when you consider the team where really young when first assembled (and actually still are)

Guess my closing comment would be this... this season we will see exactly what he has been working toward's the past few year's and we have yet to see the finished product, and that is why i think he stayed on, because he hasnt finished with his legacey just yet, or you could phrase it this way.... he hasnt fullfilled his philosiphy yet.

(SRY for typos/general noobish spelling ect) my girlfriend got me some prescribeb pain killers from her work and they have knocked me for 6 *.

 

Seems Celtic will never change.

20 years on and still we have a board who refuse to strengthen our theam while we'r on top.

there has been a shocking lack of ambition shown by them this summer and they are ripping the fans off, charging shocking prices for season tickets to watch same guff as last year. they seem to have an attitude of well we'r better than rangers so that'l do. Celtic should never opperate on a policy of doing enough to get by. Lets not forget if it wasnt for a good last 7 games we'd have won * all the huns we're coasting to the title and collapsed, well they're a far better side now and we'v not improved. look at our signings;

McCourt - pub league player
Samaras - nothing new he was here for 6 months
Loovens - wont play, stachan has already confessed his undying love for Caldwell and he's made McManus his captain so he's * there
Crosas - wont play cause Strachan continues to pick sub standard midfielders - our best 2 will be on bench on sunday
Maloney - the one and only good signing made all summer.

the fact that we havn't signed a LB * disgusts me and dont anyone kid themselves on that the board have been trying they'v done * all.

Liewell will come out with same pish on tuesday morning that we tried to get Henrik he peddles this * every year.

I dont give a * about bank balances i support a FOOTBALL team not a stock market company.

NOT GOOD ENOUGH CELTIC

 

great post

 

LOL cheer's mate, just hope i dont get shat on now

 

When are we getting a left back? Naylor does not want to be here, rather join his wife and kids down south. where is he?

 

I like your style mate, talking sense.

I agree with some of what is said and disagree with a lot more. My personal belief is that no matter what manager comes in they will be limited by the board. I was apprehensive of WGS at first as I felt his biggest achievements as a manager pre-Celtic was the insulting of Journalists.

However he does provide us with some entertaining football and does not play the long ball game all the time.

I think his flaws are having blind faith in people and playing people out of position to the point of practically ruining their spirit and chances as a player (Ross Wallace springs to mind)

He also seems to ignore any defensive problems and will happily shore up using players as above.

As for the board........

We are fans happy to support this great team through good and bad. It is fantastic that the club is healthy financially but it means jack to the average supporter who dumps £500 odd a year on just their ticket. They want results and players who incite spirited chatter at half time. Instead we get to take "comfort" in knowing we have little or no debt and the shareholders are happy.

Its not on, this is a football club you do not enter into this world to make money if you want to do that dabble in the FTSE 100.

You come into this game for the passion, excitement and most of all the HISTORY.

 

quality post mate but to answer your question he's def changed tact, we'v got one of the slowest build ups in the league unless robson is playing we have no urgency what so ever and we'll never have fast attacking team with 2 of the slowest forwards in europe. Hesselink is far slower than hartson and McDonald is so out of shape im gonna get my boots out and give being a pro another shot

 

we are only in such good position because we keep pumping in 500 quid a year with no return. if i had a crystal ball and could have seen that my 500 quid would be spent on keeping Samaras and signing league of ireland players i would have kept the money.

we're being ripped off pure and simple.

a bigger name manager would have walked under that board. Strachan deseves praise for the work he's doing with his hands tied but still left him self open to critisim due to his refusal to address the LB farce

 

I think we need to remember that market forces are driving transfer fees and wages upward, and until that changes we will be forced to operate at a lower level than before. We tried to maintain a wage bill with several players (Larsson, Hartson, Sutton, Thommo, Bobo etc) on wages in excess of 25-30k a week and it almost put us in * street again. The kind of transfer targets we can go after tend to be riskier, either unproven talent or players in the last chance saloon after troubled times at their previous clubs.

The manager could sign a dozen players before the window shuts, but what's the point unless they can go straight into the team?

The one bright spot is that I think that the wages spiral will peak soon. The fact that even top clubs are now starting to feel the pinch and reign in the money madness means that hopefully in the future the gap between us and rest will shrink.

 

Ryan67 You are correct mate, totally agree. That is the point I was trying to make on the season ticket price. It keeps the board happy but the punter gets no return other that the games they are entitled to.

I just cannot see how a club like Celtic can make statements about unfair competition of wages and fees when they have an almost full support at home, not to mention the amount of money they must take in world wide merchandise. Granted TV money is poor but can Celtic really be that much of a minor in financial terms when it comes to transfers?

The left back issue is a farce, I just wish someone in the media would pick up on it and discuss it, or maybe I have missed that?