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Criticism of Peter Lawwell.

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by lion67, May 27, 2014.

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  1. littlekennie

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    With Lawwell penny pinching I can see Rodgers walking and then 10 will not happen.

    I really don’t get what we seem to drop the ball everytime from a position of strength
     
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  3. Jeannie960 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Hudderfield town interested in Paddy Roberts fgs :56:
     
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    Sometimes the fans ,atmosphere stadium ,are not enough to convince players to come ,we do not have the wages to match english clubs so we are always up against it if we want quality .
     
  5. Murph-E

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    One of the few teams in that league who would actually suit him (and would realistically try to get him). Them or Bournemouth.
     
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  6. Eddie Murphy

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    The board needs to be careful. I agree, they are at risk of really upsetting the manager and that would be catastrophic as i can't see someone of his calibre coming to Celtic Park anytime soon - especially if they know they won't get backed.

    Now I get it, we can't compete in the transfer market in any way like our counterparts down south. This means we have to bob and weave to find little gems. But, but, but, when you have a very clear gem right along the M8 and you very openly screw the pooch in trying to sign him, then make no bones about it, you have made a true * of yourself. That's what we have done. The powers that be have tried to be cute and have ended up making a total mess of it. We tried to hold hibs to ransom, they just waited it out and wallop, they got what they asked for and we are left holding our *s.

    It's understandable when we can't sign someone because they are too expensive or don't want to come, but when there's a proven talent, identified by our esteemed manager and we miss out because of a few hundred grand, oh dear. That is inexcusable. It smacks of arrogance. That Celtic are too big, that Hibs just need to accept what we say as gosepl. I understand being frugal, but come on, this was a poker game and we got thumped. Some of the head honchos need to put a hand up and say 'my bad'.

    Now, the window is still open for a number of weeks and I do think we are waiting on the English window closing before pursuing other deals (plus our infuriating policy of trying to qualify for the CL on a bare-bones squad before bringing in further quality - there is a logic but it would be nice to speculate to accumulate just a little bit, just once for a laugh). Whoever it is responsible for identifying and closing deals really needs to come up with the goods. I do think Boyata will go. And if he does we're in a real mess at the back. Leaves us needing 2 CBs and a RB that is first team capable. We're never doing that.

    Tough times.
     
  7. CountyDownFaithful

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    Spot on
     
  8. Jeannie960 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I just found it funny in the context of what we're discussing i.e big club should be able to afford this one and that one. If PR is available I wouldn't mind seeing him back at Celtic but we have other pressing problems.
     
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  9. CookieMonster Geez yer cookies Gold Member

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    I don’t get why everyone blames PL but not Dermot, Lawwell is doing his job working to a specific financial set up, of course he has a big part in not getting McGinn but at the end of the day he’s just Desmonds puppet.
     
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  10. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    It's obvious why ... DD, the billionaire, isn't a "scummy tory *" as he is often seen down the local working mans club on a friday night :giggle1:
     
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    Nothing to do with that, Lawwell is there to run the finances and to drive Celtic forward, as a man that Dermot trusts, Dermot Desmond doesn’t run the day to day stuff at the club. He steps in sometimes, like in the case of Brendan or when we tried to get Roy Keane (both when we signed him as a player and tried as a manager)

    However, the broad view is for Desmond, have us fiscally stable, run us like a proper business. Lawwell takes care lf the nitty gritty, he makes the decisions day in day out, he controls the budget day in day out, he negotiates for transfers.

    Lawwell is the main man when it comes to how Celtic is actually run. Desmond has oversight obviously and gives the general direction but Peter Lawwell is the man who delivers.

    And nobody can tell me angering Brendan Rodgers, enough for him to come out publically and aim a rocket at the board, for the sake of a few hundred thousand pounds (and in my mind something personal between him and Rod Petrie) is absolutely a horrible business decision.

    If Rodgers wanted McGinn delivered, he should have been here weeks ago. That’s down to Peter Lawwell and why he is being heavily criticised just now. He has jeoperdised Brendan Rodgers being at Celtic, at least that’s my view.

    He has an extreme lack of ambition and that might be my biggest problem.
     
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    I think having listened to a lot of what's been said over the years PL is a bit arrogant and can rub folk up the wrong way. I think to reach the top in any field you have to be capable of trampling over a lot of people on the way up. He might very well be an A* but he's still ours and a lot of clubs would take him in a minute. The problem might also be that he himself wants to be top dog and might not tolerate an ego bigger or equal to his own. People remember great football managers they don't remember jumped up accountants :56:
     
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    People well remember the Kelly’s and the Whytes, the Fergus McCann’s, the Brian Quinn’s and co. Each and every one for different reasons.

    The fact is it is bred into Celtic fans to be untrustworthy of those in power at the club, it’s a stark difference between us and the monkeys across the city, it’s why we saved our club and they let theres die.

    We’ve always been interested in the board level stuff. Sometimes though, the critcism is more than justified.
     
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    He a business guy his biggest ambition is celtic turnover unfortunately for him the teams performance is linked to that
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  15. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    Get him ta *. McGinn situation shows he's not capable of the job, absolute cluster *
     
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  17. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    I was joking Dev. I have said before if it bothers anyone having a tory on the board, I dont even know if Pete is or isn't and tbh dont care either, they will just need to suck that up and get on with it.
    I have already agreed with you on the McGinn shambles as BR wanted him we should have paid the 2.5/3 million and got on with it. I have heard also that Lawwell and Petrie won't be exchanging Christmas cards but that shouldn't have had a bearing on this.
    I don't agree with you saying he has a lack of ambition though. He certainly hasn't achieved what he has done by not being ambitious. You might think he has set the ambition for Celtic lower than you want but in that respect then DD will be ultimately responsible for that.
     
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    In that last bit I disagree, becayse the last we heard from Desmond was when he appointed Rodgers and wanted us to be more ambitious, it wasn’t the budget we changed it was how we spent the money, it was more ambitious. And to be fair, we did do that with Edouard but is that all he’s willing to go? Our accouns are published, we know we have money to back Brendan. This is a plain lack of Peter Lawwell being unwilling to deliver due to trying to scrimp and save.
     
  19. oh bhoy

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    £4million on light bulbs ,
    Gordon (free)
    Lustig(free) hendry(£1.5m) ajer(£650k) Tierney (free)
     
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  20. Eddie Murphy

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    Who is responsible for transfers? I mean that. Lawell must have a say but in a lot of ways he must act with a team who advise on targets, financial projections, comparative negotiation positions of the selling/buying clubs? Given the sums Lawell must play a large part and i suppose have the ultimate say, but he's got a large amount of other tasks to take care of and assume there is an entire team involved in transfers.