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Big Summer Gamble?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by shuggybhoy67, Apr 11, 2010.

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  1. shuggybhoy67

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    Neil lennon was a man torn to bits yesterday because the club we love is falling apart and for me we need to reinvest in all the team sell of those players who call themselves celtic players in the summer and bring in a new look but a just cant get arround well need atleast 30 million to try and compete. That figure doesnt go round these streets but for me its a win win situation we need to gamble this summer big time we cant do any worse! just want to here your opinions should we go out and burst the bank or should we sit back and watch another bizmo of a season? although my fear is if we do go out and burst the bank of which am (80% sure we wont) well end up in huge debt like the huns? give me your thoughts people
     
  2. Markybhoy

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    We can't afford to burst the bank. That would be foolishness.

    What we need to do is find a manager who has an eye for budget priced players. Mark Hughes had a fair track record of signing good players for smallish transfer fees at Blackburn so that makes him a leading candidate for the job imo.
     
  3. jhimbhoab

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    we now find ourselves at a crossroads that we've stood at before.....get it wrong as we did in the late eighties and the huns could be top for a long long time....get it right as we did when MON arrived and we'll stride back to the club we were and should be. the vital cog is simple investment.....you get what you pay for. we've bought diddies for the last three years and we've now been shown up again. we need to buy a better class of player.
     
  4. jiko

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    Hughes has been available for months and I feel sure he's out of the equation for the Celtic job.. I know it's the Celtic way to do things at the last minute but with him having no compensation package to pay he'd have been snapped up or at least in negotiations immediately with any club who had him on their radar..

    I'd like to see a new manager given £10m and any money from whealing and dealing.. I don't think it will happen though and think whealing and dealing alone will be the transfer policy so it goes without saying we'll probably go for a manager who is prepared to work under those restrictions..
     
  5. celticfc482

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    You can break the bank but for who?

    We are unlikely to get dorrans, and many players would not want to come, i doubt wed even be able to break the bank
     
  6. Celtic_1888

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    I'd like to see a new manager given £10m and any money from whealing and dealing.. I don't think it will happen though and think whealing and dealing alone will be the transfer policy so it goes without saying we'll probably go for a manager who is prepared to work under those restrictions..[/QUOTE]

    Agree 100%...a budget of 10mil and any money from sales..surely surely surely that isnt 2 much 2 ask..return us 2 where we should be. Heart, passion, drive, winnin mentality...this as to come from within..and we need that also in a management team..If Lennon isnt the permanent manager, i still believe he must stay..he is a great influence and great 2 have around the club..must stay within the first-team role..McManus has to come back..and appointed captain! Possibly hooiveld to partner him..People have mixed opinions on mcgeady & brown here..tbh..i lik them both..but agree they havent performed consistently..Rasmussen has a scorin record..shud be played every wk! Also a fan of Hinkel..can naylor recapture is old form?? i doubt it! The 4 loanees will be gone..and much of the rest of the team are not fit for the jersey, not fit for celtic and a disgrace to their profession..THEY MUST GO! Start targettin the likes of Lalanna - s'hampton mid, Wallace - hearts left-back, scott arfield - falkirk centre-mid, Robert Snodgrass - Leeds mid/striker - celtic fan as well..good player, Ross mccormack, s.fletcher..these players are available..and im pretty sure..would all 2 well in scotland..LAWWELL, REID AND DESMOND..QUIT WORRYIN BOUT GOLF IN AUGUSTA and sort this out!
     
  7. kennydal

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    The worrying thing is Mowbray got a lot of players in and we all sai ,given time Celtic will do awrite but they have got worse but to go and ponder Millions on players is just another obstacle for Celtic ,it took them long enough to get the debt down so its back to the drawing board ,after what Lennon said about Major Surgery yesterday wouldnt have went down well with the board but he has guts to say these things considering he is wanting the job.
     
  8. Celtic_1888

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    Yes its worryin..but Mowbray ripped the spine...Under GS the spine was possibly Boruc, Hinkel, McManus, Hartley, Brown, McGeady, Robson, Skippy - and he threw most of it away and ousted Lennon..and all far 2 quickly..I do agree in lettin Caldwell, Killen, JVH, Naka, Mark Brown all go..but he f***** it all up..hes the man to blame..and the board got it wrong..back 2 the drawin board is back 2 basics..instill heart, drive, desire - everythin Lennon said..and that means buyin the right characters..maybe some of the players i mentioned will help that department..a team of leaders..team of players with a heart, passion 2 want 2 play for celtic bein motivated and drive on by a management team..We must address this issue properly in summer..otherwise..downhill we go
     
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    Lennon definately said what many have been thinking for a long time but as we already know , our players don't respond well to criticism and might just finish of any chance of getting the results that would have been required to get him the job permanently.. I don't think he can count on many of them to bust a gut for him in the remaining games but Im glad he's said his piece.. It backs up Hartsons belief that an entire new first team is required but it doesn't bode well for getting high prices should we be actively trying to punt the non triers in the summer..
     
  10. kennydal

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    I think Lennon is the only one who has some credibility left to his name after that interview yesterday and he added if he wasnt going to be manager next season a lot of those players wont be there either ,i was truely amazed in a way how he spoke ,yeah he said what everyone has been saying but for any manager or man looking for that job to come out and not miss anyone ,lets say it took a lot of guts to do ,wether it works for him or against i dont know ,but the board now know that Lennon isnt a yes man and good on him.
     
  11. Jamesy Bhoy 7

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    spend wisely is all we can do , get rid of the premadonnas and the deadwood, if lennon gets the job he needs to do what WGS did , buy decent players even a few journymen and make sure that every single one of them has the character and personality to cope with pressure, exactly like what WGS did with JVOH , caldwell , robson , hartley and skippy all passionate players with decent ability
     
  12. P R D

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    Normally I'd agree, but right now can we afford not to? The Club has to get the fans back on side and string together a team that can blow the Hun away next season.

    It's the exact same situation we were in at the end of 1999/2000 season. We need a cracking managerial appointment and a good enough budget to get some proven, able players in.
     
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    We need investment no doubt. 30million is too much (will never happen anyway)

    Sign Keane, its a no brainer.

    Sort out CB,LB,CM

    As for the rest of the players. They should be able to win the league as it is. They are the highest payed and best technical players in scotland. Self belief and determination has to be instilled into them. We are like the way Arsenal were a few years ago in the sense that we can be bullied out of games.

    If we got MON back he would get the best out of the players. I also think he would make McGeady the player he should be. Look at what he has done with Milner ffs.

    I think he could bring petrov and warnock with him, who would be a fantastic signing.
     
  14. Markybhoy

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    Please don't waste your time wishing for this. Martin O'Neill is not coming back.
     
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    Why do you say that? Nobody thought we would get Keane. The chances of MON coming back are slim but there's no harm in a bit of hope lad. Stranger things have happened and i think he genuinely loves the club. Youd never know.
     
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    O'Neill is going to Old Trafford, apparently.

    Anyway, I wouldn't say this side is anywhere near good enough to win the League. The fact we're miles off the top spot and have, in the last fortnight, lost to St Mirren and Ross County with a combined score of 6-0, really says "not good enough" to me.

    As for Aiden McGeady? The Mark Burchill of the new generation. He's 24, he should be in his prime. Will we still be talking about potential when he's 30? Overrated and believes his own hype.
     
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    I disagree that the players are not good enough. Some are(Nguemo,Koki, Naylor, juries still out on Odea, Brown, Fortune) but some are vastly superior to others in the league.

    They need to be re-motivated and learn how to scrap for wins. Look at Fulham they are punching well above their weight and it is clear to me that we need a strong coach who will organise the team properly.

    I really wanted Mowbray to succeed but it is clear that he wasnt up to the job
     
  18. Markybhoy

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    We haven't truly got Keane though. It's only a loan deal. If we had signed him permanently then I could take your point.

    I don't doubt MON's affection for Celtic but I don't think he'd ever have come here if the board hadn't promised him a massive transfer budget to buy new players. There is no way the Celtic board could/would offer him that size of budget again so I see no reason to believe he will ever return as Celtic manager. :54:
     
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    I wouldnt be suprised if the board went for another loser like Mark McGhee or John Hughes
     
  20. Brendan Hughes

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    Koki Mizuno good enough ? :56: