Celtic and St Pauli to meet next year ?

He kicked the air

 

woops, posted in the wrong thread, but cheers for the answer

 

This may well be true as it wasaround about the same time that Celtic started to sell St Pauli mercandise in thier stores.

As for when it started it was before the games against Hamburg

 

Why Celtic For St.Pauli Fans ?

Many friends, many other Supporters of FC St.Pauli Hamburg or other german football clubs have been ask why we have a strong affinity to Celtic Football Club and its supporters. Also on several occasions around European Games or home games of Celtic we have been ask by the Celtic supporters themselves why we, as a german and non-catholic, support Celtic ? The answer is on one hand very easy but on the other side not.

Celtic-Supporters are special, they are unique in its behaviour, in their views, political opinions and are mostly tolerant towards other religions, style of living or look. They are proud of their irish roots, their foundation by Brother Walfried but also are not clerical to non-catholics. To look a bit closer what makes Celtic Supporters so special I have to go a bit back in the history of following Celtic, as a German football supporter from FC St.Pauli Hamburg.

In the end of the 80´s the supporters of FC St.Pauli were following their club in the 1st league of Germany for three years and from a crowd of 3.500 it grows up to 20.000. There were a lot squattered houses and a long left-wing tradition in the district St.Pauli, which also influenced more and more the supporters of the club. We were starting to be famous for being alternative, left-wing and bringing new political views (the german stadiums were infiltrated by organised fascist parties and hooligans) to the terraces. The first non-hooligan or –rightwing Football Fanzine was started (Millerntor Roar) and the fight against right-wing, Rascism and Fascism in Football makes us known in whole Europe (the St.Pauli-Fans against Rechts-Sticker were sold more than 2 million times). From London one of the main active St.Pauli-Supporters was invited to speak in front of Football Supporters in England and on this night he first get into contact to Celtic Supporters and it was a long night and the special link between similar football loving people starts. After that he introduced more and more St.Pauli-Supporters to have a look at the people following Celtic and the games in Bern, Ekeren, Neuchatel, Lisbon, Cologne, Dortmund, Paris, Zuerich, Lyon and so on let the friendship between both parts of the supporters growing up. But why do we feel comfortable with Celtic and their supporters ? Beside the contribution of tolerance against other football supporters, the contribution of left political ideas into the conservative and nationalist football scene the development of the fascination of the Celtic Fanscene was formed by another way of facing the club (independent of sporting success).

Normally, for supporters of a football team, the most important thing in their life is success, being top of the league and the best team of the world. The Celtic supporters pay for fight, stake and showing proudness to play for the hoops is as much important as success. In the „unsuccessful“ times of the mid ninties with being second behind Rangers and leaving european cups early, the supporters backed their club and team and gave credit to the players when they tried everything.

They were not booing, yelling their or the opponent team. They give credit to the better opponents and still applaude their hoops. That was impressive at so many games and teach us a lot. The same behaviour Celtic Supporters show in the streets, bars and cities of the european host. They fight against the bad reputation of Football-Fans. Being awarded as best football supporters in 2003 for their behaviour in the UEFA-Cup-Final in Seville was no wonder for us, because this is the way how they behave since years and what makes them so special.

But also they are not like sheeps, who just follow one leader or accept all orders, who won´t stand for their rights. They fight against injustice, police oppression and undue behaviour of their own or opponent supporters. Staying together as a unity as Celtic Supporters against attackers. These could be violent and aggressive attacks by hooligans or violent elements from other teams or attacks of the club board against the views, opinions or traditions of the green and white hoops. The different initiatives, like „Celtic Fans against Bigotry“, „Racism“ or „Fascism“ are good examples.

But not only their own problems are interesting for Celtic Supporters. Also the fights against oppression, for independence movements in Europe or the world is a special thing about parts of the Supporters of Parkhead. This is another positive thing about Celtic Supporters. They are well educated about the movements in Palestine, the Basque Country, Chiapas or South Africa and support them as well as they did for the Irish struggle for decades.

Another impressive and astonish thing is the world wide spreading of Celtic Supporters. Through their irish roots there are Celtic Supporters and Celtic Supporters Clubs in nearly every corner of the world. On a trip through South America i was in a village with 1.500 inhabitants in Bolivia. There was an Irish Pub and the owner was a mad Celtic Supporter. In Seville during the days of the European Cup Final 2003 we met Celtic Supporters with Irish Roots from New York, Australia, Argentina and also the Antarctica (he works there). Through Celtic i first get contact to Irish people from Belfast, Dublin or Derry and they invited me to visit there country.

In a very warm and friendly atmosphere they teach me more about irish history and the herewith attached history of Celtic. Never met a more traditional and historical Club than Celtic. Anywhere in Ireland you meet Celtic Supporters in Celtic Pubs who are organising trips to the games (which are all away games) and have a really strong affinity to the club in spite of hundreds of miles away from Parkhead. Irish people went all over the world in the last hundred years but take their roots and their club with them.

It is fantastic to meet so many different Celtic Supporters from many parts of Europe at the games. On one occasion i went to an Old Firm with a Supporters Club from Dublin and the long line of buses, the crowded ferries were marvellous.

When i firstly visit a game of Glasgow Celtic i was surprised of the friendly and peaceful atmosphere they create in Cologne without giving up their political ideas. It was a mixture of hard drinking, singing, celebrating, behaving like guests in a foreign country and city but still stand to their irish history, for their antirascist opinion and to their tolerance towards their own people and the people which showed up.

They always make us feel comfortable and welcome. I have been travelling through European football a lot and at mostly every club in Europe you find aggressive, scaring people. But the history of Celtic, the irish roots make them behave different. In 1996 we organised a double decker bus to Glasgow for a weekend and a home game of Celtic against Motherwell. The whole weekend was magnificient. There were Irish Rebel Bands playing in every pub on every night and we got in contact with so many Celtic supporters who were also political thinking people and not only consumating football. There was a spiritual kinship. Celtic Supporters form their club, their audience, their life of football.

Many Football Fanzines exist, many fundraising gigs have been organised for different political or charitable reasons, this all makes it more than worth supporting this special club from abroad and be a part of the community around parkhead.

Heiko Schlesselmann (31 years)
Supporter of FC St.Pauli Hamburg since 1985, Supporter of Celtic FC since 1992

 

top post mate,st pauli fans are brilliant and absolutey mental.
a bit like us hoops fans hail hail!

 

Great post. Good luck to St.Pauli in the future mate.

 

could any1 tell me the hole thing about us and m

 

Read 2 posts above!

 

good stuff mate very good

 

* YAAAAAS filip trojan # 1 (deano ha ha)

been waiting ages for this, i own over 10 st pauli tops (or there abouts)

 

Any dates confirmed yet

 

heres a bit of there history .


Logo on a truck at the stadium


FC St. Pauli enjoys a certain fame for the left leaning character of its supporters: most of the team's fans regard themselves as anti-racist, anti-fascist and anti-sexist, and this has on occasion brought them into conflict with neo-Nazis and hooligans at away games. The organization has taken up an outspoken stance against racism, fascism, sexism, and homophobia and has embodied this position in its constitution. Team supporters traditionally participate in demonstrations in the Hamburg district of St. Pauli, including those over squatting or low-income housing such as the Hafenstraße and Bambule. The centre of fan activity is the Fanladen St. Pauli.
The club prides itself on having the largest number of female fans in all of German football. In 2002, advertisements for the men's magazine Maxim were removed from the team's stadium in response to fan protests over the sexist depictions of women in the ads.
St. Pauli is also a worldwide symbol for punk and related subcultures.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-0>[1]</SUP> The unofficial Totenkopf logo and the team's brown and white football jerseys have often been worn by international artists such as Asian Dub Foundation. Turbonegro recorded a special version of their song "I Got Erection" with re-worked German lyrics for St Pauli. Bad Religion played a charity match against St. Pauli's third team in 2000.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-1>[2]</SUP> KMFDM frontman and Hamburg native Sascha Konietzko is a recognizable St. Pauli fan, even at one point placing a huge picture of a fist smashing a swastika on his band's main page with the caption St. Pauli Fans gegen Rechts! (St. Pauli fans against the right-wing) underneath it. One of the most notable supporters and sponsors is Andrew Eldritch, lead singer of band The Sisters of Mercy. On his latest tour, Sisters Bite The Silver Bullet in 2006, Eldritch wore the famous Totenkopf shirt. German musicians: Fettes Brot, Die Ärzte singer/drummer/songwriter Bela B., Kettcar, Tomte and many other bands, most of them underground.
Home fixtures at the Millerntor average greater attendance than any other team in the German third division, and often exceed turnouts for second division teams. St. Pauli can also boast more season ticket holders than many Bundesliga teams. One study recently estimated that the team has roughly 11 million fans throughout Germany<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[3]</SUP>, making the club one of the most widely recognized German sides. There are about 200 registered fan clubs, many of them outside Germany.
St. Pauli are also known for their close links with many other foreign clubs and enjoy a particularly close friendship with Celtic with St. Pauli fans attending Celtic games on the continent when Celtic play UEFA competitions. St Pauli flags and scarves are frequently seen on display at Celtic Park (The official Celtic stores sell St Pauli merchandise) and every year Celtic supporters arrive in Hamburg for the annual St Pauli - Celtic Festival. The link can also be explained by the fact that the fans of the main rivals of both St Pauli and Celtic ,Hamburg SV and Rangers FC, have links. The link between Rangers FC and Hamburg SV dates back to the early seventies when the Hamburg Rangers Supporters Club was set up by Rangers FC fans who had relocated to the Hamburg area. The links were further strenthened when Rangers FC signed Jörg Albertz but this was not the start of it.
In Israel, St. Pauli is identified with Hapoel Tel Aviv F.C., a first division team that also see itself as anti-racist and anti-Fascist. In the Tel Aviv derby that took place on February 17, 2008, Hapoel Tel-Aviv fans waved a large St. Pauli flag in the stadium.

 

I remember being over in Hamburg and drinking with the St Pauli fans before the match (Humburg v Celtic) thats when big Pierre was talking to another club in the fly.
Our supporters club didn't keep in touch with them at the time but fair play to the one who did as they have brought us to where we are now.
It is another reason why I am proud to be a Celtic Supporter, more often than not we are remembered by others for our hospitality world wide.