Wait, how do these 'IRA' songs damage our club?

thread is degenerating from whether the songs should be sung at CP to whether or not the IRA are terrorists of freedom fighters. Thats two seperate issues.

 

Oh, and to all the geniuses who decided to sing * at the game today, I juts popped over to the gers forum and they are uploading videos on youtube as we speak. A little stalker/psychotic? Yes, but that doesn't mean it won't sting us. Even though it wasn't that much, I'm a little nervous for tomorrow.

 

Yeah bombing manchester was only defending their home country.

US Army may be terrorists, i don't think so, but they could be, fact is, we don't sing US Army songs at our games.

IRA songs are unacceptable, and to the lads who sang IRA songs today, do you want the club docked points ?

 

What exactly was being sung?
I couldn't hear any IRA songs where I was sitting.

 

I'm talking about the IRA, not PIRA or CIRA or even RIRA.

Huns sing the british national anthem at their games.

but as keltoi says there are 2 different issues going on right now and I think we have a consensus of opinion regarding the first issue.

 

Boys of the old brigade.

 

Do you realise just how absurd that statement is? To try and say that committing an act that is technically considered sectarian and morally wrong should possibly only be stopped if Celtic Football Club and/or others "give and take" is ludicrous.

I for one cannot see this happening. Can you imagine the scenario at the Police and Club investigations - "OK we have a problem with some supporters signing IRA support songs. Not to worry we have devised a plan, we will get the "ring leaders" in for a chat and offer to lower the prices of a ticket"

What utter nonsense, if you consider the steep price of tickets to be on a comparable level to singing bile then you are a fool. The bottom line is this, there are people who consider these acts to be completely normal, whether that is right or wrong is not really up for debate. Why? because Celtic is a football club not a front or support base for terrorist activities.

 

That's not foolish, that's business.
The best case scenario in these situations is almost always self-policing. But how do you get people to do that? Easy, give them incentives.
You can, of course, take the negative approach... but that'll have backlash and public fallout along with it.

 

It Really worries me that some people on here are actually defending these songs, so the question is, were do Celtic as a football club go from here??

maybe, just maybe the media on this occasion are correct about a section of our support, they are dinosaurs who's views will alway tarnish Celtic but will never be changed........lets hope that the descent fans stand up and be counted, point these morons out, because if we do, we will slowly but surely begin to eradicate this problem from our ground, and in particular our away support

 

I dont have a problem with these songs , i dont sing them they dont bother me neither do rangers sectarian songs.Over time these songs will shunned and forgotten and sadly maybe the club roots will be forgotten aswell.

 

I'm not saying celtic actually use that principle, far from it, because celtic ain't a football club in my eyes, it's a brand, it's business. they expect supporters to stop singing those songs. I can imagine there are coming some more requests after that, e.g. stop singing at all or no more football banners.

if you really say singing certain songs is worse than spending £25 then you are either a rich snob or not honest. tell that a big family with little money.

why I came up with that principle is in life you really can't take all the time. well celtic certainly can, but I find the way celtic treat supporters a bit disgusting recently (appointing a warlord, prices etc).

I'm aware of the fact that principle won't work here.

 

Celtic aren't associated with terrorists so we shouldnt bring songs condoling hatred or murder into the game. What makes us better fans than rangers is that we dont feel the need to sings songs of hate. If you were a true celtic fan you wouldnt risk bringing uefa down on us.

 

I dont sing the songs myself but they dont bother me that much to be honest.I Feel there is no need to sing them but, half of the people that sing them know nothing about the songs

 

Football and politics should not mix. Singing about a group of terrorists is something that is not acceptable.

his is the equilent of a muslim supported team sining about suicide bombings and sept 11

 

Aye thats the laugh of it. I wonder how many people who sing these songs at game could give legit reasons as to why they are singing them?

 

The IRA only defended their home country? Laughable wrongness.

 

He never even said that Celtic had roots or anything else to do with the IRA.
Read the post again and stop trying to twist the words.

 

Nobody is saying we should sing songs about terrorists. Rebel songs are not IRA songs. They are songs that are about the history of a nation. I don't like it when the fields of Athenrye is sung and people add on the chants of IRA and that, but I'm * if I'm going to be told not to sing song about my history which is an Irish history. If the songs are banned at football grounds then so be it. I won't sing them, but I don't put up with people who know nothing of what these songs are about labelling them terrorist songs. People who think these songs are about terrorists are ignorant and no better than the English people who hold the same view. To the English any song that is about the republican movement is an IRA song. Most of us know better.
I never have supported the IRA Provisional Wing, but I would have supported the Official IRA and the IRB and any other movement that was trying to fight back and rid Ireland of the British government backed terrorists who were occupying their country.

 

ano man half of them just sing them because they think there being hard

 

I started going to watch celtic in 1986,i stood in the jungle from 1989 until it was demolished,i made my first european trip in 1995,the rebel songs that we sang were widely accepted by celtic fans,i have noticed a massive change in the celtic support since MON took over,a lot of the new wave of celtic fans who only started to go to celtic park once we had a bit of silverware and a comfy chair to sit in have a problem accepting our rebel songs,we as a club go on and on about history,lisbon,9 in a row etc,
but now we are being told to stop living in the past and to move on, i am very sorry but these songs are MY history and my FAMILYS history and like it or not the CELTIC SUPPORTS history,these are songs we sang in defiance as the huns done 9 in a row but we still went to watch celtic home and away, week in week out with NO CHANCE of a trophy,i know some will disagree with this post but maybe it will make some of the new wave understand what these songs mean to us.