Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

You really have a high opinion of yourself, don’t you?

“Hoax”, as if only you’re intelligent enough to see it. * off.

 

This is all 100%

The 'should we sack' Rodgers discussion often overlooks that as it stands he is leaving in 7 months and really the discussion is whether its better to part way a few months early.

The rebuild is necessary whether in January when we try to bring in new players with a manager who is leaving a few months later. Or with a new manager bringing in new players.

Logically I think the second option is the neater option. The only argument against that would be if we felt Rodgers was the best man to keep the team firing until the end of the season. And honestly I dont think he is. So Id be happy to see him go sooner rather than later, not because he is terrible and deserves 'the sack'. Rather it just makes more sense from a planning perspective and from a chances of winning the league this season perspective.

 

You've come to that conclusion about them despite them barely getting a game, and when they have they don't seem obviosily worse than those who are in the team? Maybe ask yourself why every single player is underperforming and who's responsibility that is.

Elite is elite. There's a handful of elite managers in world football (hence the term) and Rodgers is not one of them. CL after CL? Ask the Kairat fans if they think Rodgers is elite.

 

Everyone knows he's away at end of the season so why should we as a club stand still waiting on him * off?

January window is massive for us normally as it's when we should be getting guys bedded in for qualifiers but this year we might actually need it just to save this season.

Theres no chance we back a guy who's leaving in the summer and it's also difficult to convince anybody to sign knowing the manager is away in a few months.

However even during our 2 absolute worst seasons in the last 20 years we gave mowbray and that * Lennon until March.

We are as slow at sacking manager's as we are at signing players

 

Is Rodgers better..

Than a Kenny/Maloney or Broonie, or Lennon?

Definitely.. because that's what we'd get under this regime.

 

You’ve just outed yourself I’m afraid

It’s a hoax. See the bigger picture beyond Rodgers. If you aren’t going to be open minded then I can’t help you.

Maybe some acid could help the matter?

 

Elite in Celtic terms. He’s no Pep Guardiola but he’s no Lennon/Deila/Mowbray/Maloney/Brown/Kennedy either.

He’s also a cut above Ange.

Pep Guardiola, Marco Rose and Knutsen also don’t get a tune out of the worst front line this century. And that back four today.

So where do we get to by amending the manager and keeping the regime upstairs in place?

The hoax is distracting from who is at fault here.

Rodgers is also not without his faults, but as one of the most successful managers in the clubs history, he gets a pass for now.

 

Yes. I’ve just outed myself for thinking the manager should be doing better with what he’s got, in spite of the shambolic recruitment.

Thank you, oh enlightened one.

 

Is @Ciaran_67 doing a bit or something ?

 

So it’s went from ‘elite’ to ‘elite in Celtic terms’. Like that’s a thing.

People seem to think Rodgers is the best manager we could ever hope to attract. It’s absolute nonsense.

 

Do u not think that Rodgers should be doing better in Scotland with current players? I think I could get a better tune out of them currently. To get players to play for u - u do not come out and call them a "Honda Civic" - He should be released ASAP

 

No problem, you’re welcome

The worst front line this century. A back four today who wouldn’t be good enough for the bottom half SPL.

This is the big picture.

If you think the squad is acceptable as it is then you presumably think we should be winning the league at a canter and doing well in Europe. By extension, you will have thought the Board did a good job in the summer because presumably the squad is good enough to do this. You see?

The enlightened among us know the converse it true.

Rodgers is not without criticism as he could drop Hatate amongst other things. But I’m afraid that is the small picture. The big picture is, well, much bigger.

As you were.

 

I'm starting to wonder, and I don't like myself for it, but if he's mentally checked out and going through the motions, somewhat expecting the board to sack him so he fan blame them (they are the fault in a lot of ways to be fair), then he needs to be careful how much his own agenda may * over the squad and cause the fans to turn against him.

This board will have zero issues with letting Rodgers self sabotage and * his own legacy again. In fact, a guy like PL would love nothing more than for Rodgers to attempt to burn the board down but inadvertently burn his own relationship with the fans that he has worked well to mend.

Which makes me wonder, the next few games are massive and if we continue on this path, the game against rangers is absolutely gonna be a cluster * for us and he needs to be careful.

He may be better at this stage, to walk away and cite the board as the reasoning. Most fans will still give him credit and akin to the thought if he would walk when the window closed.
I think he is just still in that conversation to highlight the window as part of the overall issue and use all the * to his favour.

But if he sticks it out beyond the next international break while we continue to stutter, then he will be in serious danger of falling in to the Lennon cart of *.

Basically, Rodgers, sort this out in what ever magical way you can, or walk before your reputation gets * over. Because the board will let that happen before stepping in.

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Yes he’s an elite level Celtic manager. Look at his CV at Celtic. His CV is better than any other manager we’ve had in the 21st century.

Celtic can’t get Luis Enrique, Pep Guardiola or Jurgen Klopp.

I’m afraid they wouldn’t get a tune out of the worst Celtic front line this century. They wouldn’t get a tune out of a back 4 today who would look out of place in a bottom 6 SPL team.

This is what we’re dealing with. You think we can get better - who are they?

 

Despite the failures of his bosses... he has to be doing better. Bottom line.

 

This is the sad reality of it. I’d be tempted to sack him just in the hope we get a new manager bounce. But that’s all it would be. Hope. Because the * clowns running us would appoint someone like you have mentioned. Why would any half decent manager want to come here and work under the shower of *? For too long, we’ve had too many fans happy to sit and accept it. There has to be drastic action taken to try and rid us of these parasites.

 

It is under this board. Why would anyone want to come here and work under them? Who would want to more to the point?

 

He's obviously not doing well enough but only a saint could deal with this board and the manner they are running the club and not be affected. It would inevitably impact anyone in charge here. It's rinse, repeat at this stage - we've seen it before, so there's no point in blaming the manager.

There's no ambition at the club and its run like a club 20 years out of date. I saw a tweet that said bringing data analytics for player recruitment into Scottish football is like showing fire to a caveman. Yeah, this kind of stuff blows the minds of idiots like David Martindale who still believe that 'a good pair of eyes' is superior to data. But Lawwell, Nicholson, Desmond, etc are no better..... these are all neanderthals in running a football club who cannot comprehend what a modern day well run club looks like. And it's an indictment on us, in our position of strength, that we allow feckin Hearts of all clubs to steal a march.

I'm absolutely ashamed to have such clowns running the club. Sell up, get rid, fire them from a cannon, whatever, I'd do anything to never see their faces around the place again.

 

Well one more to go in that case


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Dunno what you mean by hoax? It's all a ruse and we aren't actually * at boardroom level and being managed poorly by a coach who's downed tools?

Absolving the manager of all blame for how bad our players perform on matchdays is mental.