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Luis Palma

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Notorious, Aug 28, 2023.

Discuss Luis Palma in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. We named the dog Indiana Gold Member Gold Member

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    He's much better than yang. Maybe doesnt suit us but he's not a bad player.
     
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  2. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Biggest load of * I've ever read.
     
  3. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    To an extent they wouldn’t.

    Our issues are far deeper than personel. The group of players we have should be performing to a far higher level.
     
  4. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nonsense.
     
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    Who, Yang? A 39 year old Schemichel. A crocked KT? A free transfer who was ridiculed at Boro for six months, Ralston?

    We havent found the right blend because the top end of the pitch is a mess. Teams dont fear us. They double up on Tounekti knowing we have nothing on the other side. Midfield isn't working to be fair but who have they really got to play with? There is no pace in the team. We are reaping what we have sown.
     
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  6. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    We are missing Kuhn and Jota from the Bayern 1-1 game.

    If you think our issues are purely personel, you’re severely glossing over the rest of the issues.

    I already said we are needing a rebuild, but that group of players should be performing far better than this. That’s a fact.
     
  7. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Good reply. Two where you’ve contributed nothing to the discussion.
     
  8. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I'm addressing the comments for what they are. You can't simply say personnel would make no difference to this season and that we'd be struggling regardless. That's you saying Rodgers is 100% to blame and that is formation/tactics will never work. When he literally has years of evidence here with multiple trophies proving that to be untrue. Its literally a nonsensical argument. You're literally claiming that if Jota wasn't injured and fully fit, AJ was fully fit and if we'd recruited a proper striker to replace Kyogo that we'd still be struggling. When in actual fact that would clearly make a massive difference.
     
  9. celtic20

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    Palma, Oh, and Haksabanovic as a trio would've had me so excited today.

    How times have changed at Celtic
     
  10. Jackie Daytona Gold Member Gold Member

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    What part of “we’re playing the same tired formation and tactics every game” is a load of *? Lack of personnel is not the reason that we’re playing it - it’s tactical inflexibility.

    Everyone knows recruitment has been poor but he’s getting nothing out of players that are capable of better. Certainly capable of outperforming a * poor side like Dundee.

    That is completely on the manager.
     
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  11. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Did you read what I said?

    I said “To an extent”. Of course a higher calibre of player can make a difference, but that’s not even guaranteed and it wouldn’t fix the clear issues we’ve had for a long time now. This squad is good enough to win the league, that’s with glaring holes. But we just got beat easily off Dundee, that’s more than a personel problem.

    In here, people are trying to suggest that Palma would make a difference.

    Btw we were * long before the AJ injury. As I said, we are basically Jota and Kuhn away from the Bayern 1-1 game. We’ve got much deeper problems than just personel and it’s all came together for the perfect storm.
     
  12. murphy88

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    That’s a pretty simplistic way of looking at it mate. We’ve also got Maeda who doesn’t want to be here and has checked out. Yang likewise. McGregor’s legs look gone and time has caught up. Tierney is finished by the looks of it also. We have been missing Johnston most of the season too. The squad was badly needing freshened up as some players have been here for some time now. It’s got stale and we allowed it to happen due to our total incompetence.
     
  13. murphy88

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    For what it’s worth, I think Rodgers has gave up, as did the fans after the summer. All this has been created by the board and it’s ran right through the club.
     
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  14. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I totally agree. Said it in the match thread a rebuild is due.

    But saying personel alone would fix this is naive. Especially trying to claim players that were hounded out would suddenly make a difference now.

    McGregors legs haven’t gone that badly in half a year since that game. We were awful with AJ in the team. This form has been coming, long before the recruitment this past summer when our squad was at it’s strongest. There are tactical ineptitudes that are causing players who were flying 12 months ago to regress at a scary rate.
     
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    Time will catch up with a player at some point. They definitely have with McGregor. You can see he doesn’t get around the pitch anywhere near like he did. You could also say that a year ago at this stage we were playing some of the best stuff we had played in a very long time. That was with the same tactics as we are trying to play just now. Personnel is definitely a massive issue, along with age catching up with players. It’s all just went stale.
     
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    Aye, it has gone stale.

    Kühn and AJ linking up, with Kühn’s pace and AJ’s overlapping was a big reason we were performing well this time last season.

    With AJ out and no clear first choice right winger, we’re limited on the right.
     
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    Saying the players are capable of better is pure unproven speculation. Tounetki, Iheanacho, Balikwisha, Nygren are 4 relative unknowns as they haven't been here too long. Remains to be seen how good they'll be. You aren't getting any more out of Yang or Ralston, they are pish. Forrest winding down, not getting any more out of him. McGregor is on the decline I don't think you're getting much more out of him either. We managed to * our key player from last year Maeda off and he has dropped off form massively. Yes on paper we COULD potentially get Hatate, Engels, McCowan or Bernardo playing better than they are now. Scales been performing above his usual. Tierney may be done if his performances continue on this trajectory. CCV been a little bit dodgy but normally solid enough. Schmeichel on his way to retirement he's not going to improve.

    So breaking it down, I'm really not seeing a massive list of players being hampered by a manager and tactics here. The midfield clearly is a point of concern and there are good players in there who we could be getting more out of, but apart from that, the real question begs, where are the goals supposed to be coming from?

    We don't have a prolific striker on the books. Iheanacho will score occasionally based on his recent games. That's it. Tounetki might chip in with a goal. Nygren has scored a few. But this is a huge issue for me and the biggest failing of the recruitment. If we place Iheanacho to the side. The rest of the strikers on the books have only ever scored 3 goals for Celtic. And all have been Johnny Kenny. So this why I'm saying personnel is clearly the biggest issue here as the goals from the team have sold and not replaced. So to suggest the main thing holding us back is "tactical inflexibility" whatever that term is supposed to mean, is completely untrue. We aren't scoring goals because our front 3 in any combination we play isn’t up to the task and we have the worst choice of strikers I've seen since the 90s.
     
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    Then on the left we’ve had Maeda who has checked out and wants away, along with Tierney who looks done.
     
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    A higher calibre of player would make all the difference, this squad I don't believe is good enough to win the league without January reinforcements. And no I'm not being a panic merchant because we're 5 points behind Hearts I genuinely don't believe once you allow for a couple of injuries that this squad is good enough to last the distance over 38 games. Especially with playing in Europa League too and the squad is woefully short of being a decent Europa League team. Whereas we competed in the Champions League last year. What has changed, other than personnel and a disastrous transfer window? If we'd have got our business right over the summer we'd be in the Champions League and have a higher points total in the league. I don't think thats a controversial take. Singing Tounetki ahead of the Kairat tie might have been enough to see us through, and thats literally one person. And sometimes 1 signing can make all the difference. So personnel is unquestionably our main issue this season.
     
  20. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Rodgers is on £3m quid a year he doesn't get to give up ffs mate
     
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