[Official TC Thread] Would you support a vote of no confidence against the Celtic Board?

Again, all true. But as what Celtic effectively is, as the standard bearers for Scottish Football, the irony is not lost, that it is emblematic of a much wider stunted and decrepit state.

The contentment of doing the bare minimimum to win the League, when given the resources, that is the bare minimum of what should be reasonably expected anyhow. That BS statement that was produced on the weekend was utter crap. It was an effort in gaslighting, and the fans collectively saw through it for what it was.

Noone is insisting on £30m transfer net spends every summer, nor expecting it, but that does not pardon the manner of club making derisory and insulting offers in an attempt to lowball. Or waiting until after the CL Qualifiers before start getting serious.

Next season there will be multiple rounds of qualifiers to have to navigate and the co-efficiant is so crap. The timing and the way the transfer business is conducted is an utter embarassment, and all that capital sitting there, again, it is good to be prudent to ensure the long term sustainability of the club, but the money they shelled out for the disco lights at the stadium for instance... I may've missed something but I am yet to be aware of those lights having done anything to help the team or generate profit or anything else. It is astetic when what Celtic is, first and foremost, a football club.

Scottish football needs to change, and those at the top of our Club have become complacent in conducting business as they have been for so long, assured of the pre-eminance of Celtic within Scottish Football. Now, I am not saying that the two are intrinsically linked, but it is hard not to notice the relativity there.

But that is all to the side, when the executive of the Club and the current structures in place have effected throughout the operation, and as I've noted elsewhere, there are similiar issues that are every bit as evident in the Women's side of things as there are in the Men - it is just that the Men are a far higher profile with more invested in it and people's awareness of it is likewise primarily based upon what they see/hear about what is happening with the Men, but the systematic problems are presently evident.

And the reason why is because they don't see it in terms of performance on the park but on the balance sheet. Buy merch. £. Buy TV subscription. ££. Buy a ST. £££. Trade a player that cost little to cash in a lot. ££££. And the other way... Clean the stadium. -£. Pay fines levied because of fans. -££. Nickel and dime in the transfer market. -£££. It is all factored into the cost of doing business. A business that has been success and is generating profits, something few other clubs in all the world, nevermind Scotland, can lay claim to. Why do more when the bare minimum has been enough? Why try to take the next step, when a glass ceiling, one partly of their own making and partly by circumstance has dictated and content to 'big fish in a little pond' and that is all there is.

Competition to a slendered list, to a duopoly, to a monopoly, and the division within, brought about by arrogance and hubris.

 

The rebels are winning!

 

Yes. With a doubt.

 

* aye

 

Too * tooting aye. I wonder who that 1 is

 

We are rebels by nature. Its part of who we are. The board have forgotten this and will be the end of them one way or another.

 

Lawell s must be disguised on the forum

 

I voted "yes". In simple terms, sticking my football fan hat on, I have no faith that the current board serves Celtic to an acceptable level. That is really my own interpretation of the question being asked.

All that said, sticking a more formal governance hat on, I would suggest that the questions aimed at the board and the broad objections voiced should be tigher. Although I aknowledge it is a symbolic act, Im not convinced we all share an understanding of what this no confidence vote is or what we are aiming to achieve. That isnt a criticism of anyone, rather it comes from using quite broad terms coupled with several open and leading questions. I get that we are football fans, not lawyers, just sharing a view that if the objective is really to encourage better board engagement (we cant 'sack the board') the objections need to be fewer in number and tigher in scope.

 

Yes, amazed it's taken this long.

 

Couldn't be a stronger yes from me.

In a dream world scenario, some rich investor is watching this unfold with a strong interest.

Realistically, the board will probably remain but they must accept the changes that need to be made

 

The outcome of their meeting with stakeholders and their subsequent statement kind of made their position untenable I feel.

You can have a suspect strategy - but execute it well. Or you can have a good strategy but execute it badly. The board are at the point of having both a bad strategy and executing it badly.

Their statement failed to acknowledge that either the strategy or the execution was wrong. It doubled down on the strategy and basically made excuses for the execution - without even really acknowledging that it was unsatisfactory.

The phrasing of statement like "throwing around money" was a clear effort to establish a false narrative that they were being demanded to spend recklessly. That was never demanded by any fan group or the initial letter of concern posted to them.

The UEFA FPP stuff was just pure attempt at misdirection. Complete whataboutery.

The stuff about agents and social media - well thats what football is now. Agents inflate prices. Media speculates etc etc. If you are blaming that for being unable to succeed then you are tacitly admitting you are not fit for purpose or dont have the right people in place to succeed. Because thats modern football.

So it seems fruitless to expect any change in the approach that has seen us continue to be footballing no marks in Europe with ambitions tethered to a really poor domestic league low in both competition and quality.

Therefore there needs to be change.

 

That's funny, someone voted no. Suppose that's democracy for you

 

Genuinely amazed anyone can hand on heart say they have confidence in this board.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, granted.

But over the last twelve months, we lost our first choice striker, twice. Lost a major contributor in goals and assist in kuhn. Replaced none of the above. Been shafted by Kazakhstan opposition - how does that inspire confidence

 

Way way overdue a time for change

 

Who’s the scab?

 

It's a 100% yes from me

 

He would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky fans?

 

Someone voting no doesn't necessarily mean they have confidence in the board. They could be looking at it like a vote of no confidence doesn't actually carry any weight. It's more symbolic than anything.

But we have to start somewhere.

 

Make the votes public