Who you blaming?

I'm pretty bored of the "he should have beaten them with the squad he had" argument. Why is that the case? Had Kyogo and Kuhn been replaced I'd be inclined to agree with the argument. But playing a weakened squad from last season with absolutely no investment and relying on Yang/Forrest to create from the wings is exactly why we're out. You can't simply take key players out a team without replacing them or adding quality and say "we should still be winning anyway" We got what we deserved. There was absolutely no preparation for the tie, no investment, no ambition. Thats why we're in the Europa League. Brendan had his hands tied

As for this post, the answer is 100% board. Brendan is actually irrelevant in the grand scheme. It doesn't matter who the manager is at the club this is a recurring theme going back 10 years. This summer happens to be the worst ever.

 

We have a much better team and it underperformed. I have some sympathy for Rodgers, having to play * like Yang and a clearly out of confidence Idah, but three games in the last four with zero goals deserves criticism, especially considering the lack of chances created.

 

I don't rate our current team. I think our front line is the worst I've seen it in years. We don't have a first choice striker. Players like Idah and Yang were playing knowing they were leaving anyway (or should have been leaving). Maeda lost form completely from last season. Jota injured. Kuhn and Kyogo gone. So in terms of quality on the park, I'm not seeing where we we're a better team than Kairat. Pulling on a Celtic jersey doesn't make you a superior team. I think our current squad is garbage. That's why we're not creating chances and scoring goals. We have some good central midfielders, and some dependable centre backs. The rest of the team currently looks weak as * and the squad is full of sub par to * players. That squad was crying out for investment all summer and we downsized it in terms of quality. That team is winning absolutely * all this season. Give it a couple of months and Rangers will be running away with the league, especially if they get rid of Russell Martin. We are there for the taking this year I have absolutely no doubt in my mind about that.

Its not Rodgers job to scout, negotiate and sign players. He's not been backed and is currently at the helm of the worst Celtic team in recent memory. If he wasn't concerned about his relationship with the Celtic fanbase after what happened during his 1st stint here he'd be gone already.

 

My major concern is we may well have a demotivated and unsettled manager in the last year of his contract on our hands now, and all the tell tale signs are that he won't be signing/getting a new contract, and although he has stated before he will see out his three year contract, I would not rule out him jumping ship again, if he got a lucrative and tempting offer from an EPL team before that, such is the perceived angry and depressed mood at the club and amongst the Celtic support. That is an impossible position to be potentially in, and the Club and the Board have a duty of care to the fans and shareholders, to ensure they have a contingency plan in place, if that were to happen, and I don't mean John Kennedy and Sean Maloney FFS.

We have domestic honours and the Europa League to concentrate and focus on this year, and we just cannot find ourselves in a position, where potentially the manager on the road out, may well be inclined to adopt/continue a FU to the Board, Club and its supporters, at the expense of the honours and league title at stake this year.

 

red imps was rodgers's red imps disaster

 

For some reason I thought that was Strachan's baby.

That's even worse for Rodgers now then.

 

aye thats 3 of our worst ever results he got under his belt

 

I'm tempted to say some elite manager eh ?
And fire the * out a rocket at the full moon tonight, but I won't say any of that.

But we better have a contingency plan in place for the unexpected.

 

I think the decline of the team has been evident going back as far as the league cup final last year where we scraped past a rangers side that had begun to suss us out. Since then we have failed to perform in most of the significant games we have had - with Bayern away being the outlier (a different style game than our usual possession heavy ones)

Our rich vein of form last season coincided with both Maeda and Kuhn hitting serious purple patches at close to the same time and posting massive numbers.

The latter part of last season, Kuhns form noticeably tailed off to the point where the support had practically turned on him and wanted him dropped. The teams performances noticeably began to dip also - although Maeda kept up very strong numbers in attack.

This season Maeda has started to follow the Kuhn downward trajectory last year and his form has dried up. Without our two key weapons from last year firing it feels like we are plane thats now lost both engines. We cant get anything at all going in the final third.

I also believe this has increasingly exposed a midfield set up that doesnt quite work. An approach that opposition teams have largely clocked and become better at nullifying (marking McGregor and closing down the space in the wide area really hurts our ability to get the ball forward).

In all of this I think Rodgers has been remarkably inflexible and unwilling to change anything at all really despite mounting evidence that his set up is no longer working effectively. The lack of investment in the team over the Summer has turbo charges what was an existing decline I think and the lack of ambition shown by the board has also created a toxic environment within the club which I think has sapped the morale in the team and manager and caused massive unrest in the support.

 

i blame rodgers for the awful start to the season .we were amazing before christmas last season and bayern munich aside pish after christmas .the year before rodgers took over fantastic treble winning side and dragged us into title race with sevco before he realized you could pass the ball foward .guess my point is we are capable of dogshit performances with good players available . the board are * transfer windows have been a * joke for some time

 

You know we went through pretty comfortably in the end?

 

Nice edit

Through what ?

Ignominy ?

 

I edited to add "pretty comfortably" - so what? What's your point?

Through to the next round.

 

70/30 in ‘favour’ of the board. Our transfer business has become * farcical, but Rodgers’ inability to beat a poor Hun team (as well as actually losing to the *) is worrying. He seems to not see things that are pretty obvious. They should all go next season, although I’d still be happy enough to keep Rodgers if we could get him the players he wants.

 

IT’S NOT ‘THE BOARD’….

IT’S HIM !

 

oh aye the players forgot about them *

 

Who's that? WW?

Willie *.

 

Can pretty much end all discussion on this stuff after this post. Absolutely bang on

 

That's fine, they're still better than Kairat and should have beaten them.

 

I’ve been thinking about this a lot, and both are to blame.

I blame the board for not having the correct structure setup and, as multiple clubs reporting, being extremely difficult to work with. From not answering calls to offering significantly less than the club has told them they want. I know we want the best deal possible but it’s ridiculous.

We should also have the right setup of staff to handle all of this, we don’t really know much about the setup of the club.

Then I blame Rodger’s for the football side. Even if he doesn’t have the players required, his coaching style should still come through and it’s been boring as * to watch. Literally. It makes me think of the last time he was in charge. Side to side, back to defence, start again. Barely any attacking threat at all. I hate constantly bringing up Ange but it is one of the reasons I loved him as manager, we were always pretty attacking.

Within that squad, it’s more than capable of winning domestically and it should have been more than capable of beating kairat over two legs. Against stronger teams, we’ll likely get hammered but without the right investment that’s expected.