Who you blaming?

I'm like everyone else 80% * faces 20% rodgers

 

desperately short at right wing, have/ had at least 4 centre halfs yet we bring in jsp while ignoring rw.

We then have maeda, jota and Yang as left wingers (yang is better off the left although predominantly played on the right). Yet refuse to address the right wing. We then bring in two additional left wingers.

Apparently you wait for the real quality but the only right winger we have been linked with all summer is that Benson fella.. we didn't kaboom 40 mill in Cl money to hold off on getting him.. on loan..

Striker a similar mess..dolberg imo had * all interest going to Celtic, certainly off the back no cl. Yet we appear to have left ourselves incredibly exposed holding on for him. If you arent pulling up trees to be at Celtic I don't want you. It won't end well whether you come or not. The team across the city have been operating for years with players who don't wanna be there. How has that fared?

Forget Rodgers. The board run the club as a whole. They allowed us to sleep walk into a 40mill euro playoff game without the bare minimum of what was required. I actually think the CEO will have to walk the plank and I think he will be getting absolutely roasted by Desmond etc currently.

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Board first. We can look at the manager after

 

The manager and the players are not blameless but for me that vast majority of the blame of the mess we find ourselves in is on Desmond and his board cronies.

 

Said it in a gazillion other threads, this is overwhelmingly on the board and they need chased but Brendan and the players should still be capable of beating Kairat and the poorest hun team in some time and should share some small portion of blame for those. Just my opinion.

 

Both

Lately watching a Rodger’s football team puts you to sleep.

 

Both to an extent but board take the vast majority.

In the near past Rodgers has failed to beat teams in big games that spent significantly less than he has. Losing to Aberdeen in the cup final with a * performance. Losing over 2 legs to Kaibat. No win in 5 against rangers. All * performances, low energy, and against teams that dont have 20m of players sitting on the bench.

But the big problems we all know about sit with the board and the issues are top down. In short, losing Rodgers wont help us progress but losing the board is absolutely necessary

 

Both, the football is dire and the board is worse.

 

I'm putting it 100% on the board.

I don't think many managers would get a tune out of the attack Rodgers started the season off with. Idah and Daizen with their confidence shots and Yang and Forrest who just aren't up to being anything more that impact players in the final 15 minutes.

 

I kind of agree, but you can also argue we should have beaten them with the squad we had for the ties.

Rodgers is a good manager and the board is much more to blame, but Rodgers does deserve criticism for the form.

 

Voted both, however BR should have had enough experience and knowledge to get us thru that tie with the players he had. Change of formation or tactics, apparently an elite manager after all, he should have been able to pull something out of his locker to change things up especially 2nd leg when he knew how they wer gonne set up etc.

 

He has a part in this obviously but I can't shake this either. It's undeniable that a happy Rodgers with an injection of quality at the top end of the park gets us through..

I gave him it after Kairat away but I've no doubt a backed Rodgers has us in the groups and 9 clear..

 

That's an academic question, but it does not absolve Brendan of blame here. It is claimed by some, he is an elite manager, he was up against a minnow team with a UEFA 311th in the club ranking.

Read that again 311th UEFA club ranking.

He couldn't even devise/motivate the squad to score one goal in 220 minutes of action against a football minnow, with the squad at his disposal. He had other options apart from playing a clearly spent Forrest and an erratic Yang, he chose not to use them. He stuck rigidly to his inflexible 4-3-3 system even though it was patently not working. He did not make any subs in the torrid heat and altitude of Kairat away until the 70th minute.

Shocking does not even come into it, and it really shook my belief in him as an elite coach.

 

For the individual games mentioned and the players poor, lethargic performances late last and early this is season it's primarily the players and Rogers.

We could and should be doing better with what we had at the time of all those games.

The more structural stuff, inc recruitment - that's clearly 100% the board.

 

Rodgers has clearly been killed by the board. He’s shown the football he can play with the right tools. Look at the team that the football a year ago, the best football Ive ever seen from us. Now it looks like some of the worst.

One thing i will say is we should still have had enough against Kairat to go through.

As i mentioned earlier I am struggling to understand what the plan is when we are building up with McGregor and centre halves anymore, feels like they are getting far more touches than before

 

Rodgers has pretty much been coasting since the turn of the year, if not before. Unlike last time, he has played the situation smarter this time, so that the likes of Nicholson and Tisdale are the ones in the firing line instead of him, even though the situation we are in is every bit his fault.

Given the acrimony of how he left midseason for Leicester in 2019, when the club approached him to return there is no way that between him, his agents and lawyers would not have included some provision concerning transfers, whether it was a budgetary thing, or whatever the case may be. Having been given his way previously - last summer was allowed to spend £25m on Englels, Trusty and Idah, so the argument that he and he alone should be given charge of the transfer activity is completely misplaced.

So, it's easy, paint the Club for not getting him the players he wants but do it with a hint while surface level supportive of the club. His contract is up next summer, so as seems to be the case there is already a narrative where people are already saying BR is blameless if he leaves. Even though all evidence suggests he has been pretty much doing the bare minimum since the turn of the year, if not before.

However, this is not the manager's fault alone. Indeed, the fact that we have seen a remarkably similiar trend with regards to the women's team also this summer is further evidence of there being issues with how the Club has been conducting business.

This is not the Board here. It is the Club executives. Most of the Board are non-executive. It is the club executive and operations that should be facing the heat here, but that does not excuse Rodgers' activity, history and performance.

Accountability matters - and that most definitely includes the manager.

Now, it is very clear that Tisdale and Nicholson bare significant responsibility for the current situation, especially when it comes to the laughable - if not downright insulting - transfer negotiations that were conducted.

Is it any wonder so many clubs were not interested in dealing or players reluctant to join, and that is both before and after the events in Almaty. Trying to lowball offers in a climate where it has been an overinflated sellers market this summer. That isn't to say paying significantly over the odds, but it also is no excuse for making derisory offers that completely and insultingly undervalue players.

 

Fair point.