Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I’ve been trying to not go overboard with my frustrations with him just now because I’m * seething with how we as a club have fumbled this window and done nothing to try and equip him with more.

Because that is still the biggest * issue in my mind. By far. Because it’s far from a one off, it’s just a window second only to * Willo Flood January window levels of awfulness.

But that’s not the only issue. He’s doing my * nut in.

I’ve been over pretty much every thread explaining in detail what’s doing my nut in.

But I can sum up without needing to try and unwrap how he’s doing my * * in.

And it’s * get over yourself Rodgers. Acknowledging that you’re preferred style that has worked before, is now stale, found out and now with the personnel available doesn’t * suit them either isn’t a weakness, it’s not a slight on the ego. Acknowledge it, do something about it, that’s a * strength and major positive for a manager. * ego runs riot

 

Maybe all those sides have a better front 3 than us? That's not Rodgers fault, bless his cotton socks. Poor guy can't catch a break at Liverpool, Leicester and Celtic he's been shafted by a board forcing him to play toothless turgid football.

 

The common theme, everyone of those teams sold there front line after playing well no wonder its always turned to *.

 

The common theme is his relationship breaks down with those above him and he stubbornly holds on to players against their will, creating a malaise. Unless you're at Real Madrid you need to accept players will move on when they do well, rather than spit the dummy and go in to self-preservation mode.

Btw I've said multiple times the board are a huge problem as we see this time and again from them with other managers, a lack of ambition and vision, incompetence being effective in the market also. It doesn't excuse what the manager is failing to get from the current squad though.

 

They don’t mate. They really don’t.

Don’t know if we as a team are aware of that though.

Shouldn’t come into it either this for me because of course it * shouldn’t, they played a lot different tactics as well. And it shouldn’t come into it because the tactics they’ve had so far is to not defend in midfield at all, and allow free reign to go at them hoping to pick up a counter.

And we shouldn’t * expect the only way for us to get at a team like them is with them not bothering their arses to try and defend.

Frustration levels watching us is * through the roof

 

Not Brendan's fault though.

 

I remember in Ange's early days, when his squad was lacking in quality (understatement). He kept on praising the players even when they were struggling and a lot of folk were giving him pelters for it. Basically talking * but for the reason to protect the players, keep them working hard and wanting to run through walls for him.

Compare that to Rodgers now. Frustrated by our lack of signings so comes out publicly and effectively tells the players they're not good enough. He's got it all * from elbow. He should be putting his energy into making his players believe in themselves, not belittling them.

He's basically just a bit of a * and it's not surprising a lot of the guys don't look like they want to play for him.

 

Almost dived in ball deep in anger about how it is there

 

Ange had quality man management. Everyone would run through walls for him. He just made you believe. * I miss that. Any other crazy aussies we can get?

 

Muscat

 

Don't think we'll ever get anyone like that big man again, total one-off!

 

Ange also hammered the point publicly about adding players to the team. In a similar way.

Difference in the approach though is Ange fosters confidence at the same time as doing so, not with fake plaudits but with how he showed players his belief in them on the pitch. He gave complete freedom for them to * up if they’ve tried to do something different, with flair, something creative. That was fine for him. As lomg as they burst there * to get it back, and do that for the guys around them.

Rodgers micromanages the game, tries to get a chokehold on it. Plays it safe, fosters the feeling that you can’t lose the ball. And honestly there’s been 3 large spells under him as manager we’ve seen that. This season so far, first season back and his 3rd when he left the first time round.

And I’ve came to the conclusion he doesn’t know he’s doing it. His aftermatch interview what he’s saying? He said similar the other two spells of it over and over. And it’s what we all are saying, but he doesn’t build that into the team when he doesn’t trust the squad

 

Our squad may be light and guys like Balikwisha are only in the door 5 minutes but any manager worth their salt would be able to get more out of this group of players. But for weeks if not months now there is an agressive downturn in form across the board, not just one player who's maybe had their head turned with a move but nearly every single player is off the boil which makes me question does Rodgers actually have the dressing room still.

Of the three games that could have defined our season already so early on, would a different manager have got something different? Obviously we dont know, but you have to assume surely, that at least with our current squad as is, we'd have registered far more of a threat in the two Kairat games and against the huns surely?

We've been utterly toothless in those games and Rodgers can bemoan about playing faster, slower, not passing it sideways all he likes, but he is the coach, hes not just in door struggling to stamp his ideas, this is him 3 seasons in now, hes the one giving instructions on what to do in training, giving team talks about what to do etc...

There is no chance we pull of a miracle in what's left of the transfer window, so the squad we have is what we have to deal with until January. If the board had any ambitions and actually had set up a competent scouting network, they'd sack him and get a new guy in.

They won't and we will continue with this dog muck until Leeds come calling in January

 

Warning...Unpopular opinion incoming...

maybe the board is right not giving him anymore money. Just look at some of his recent transfers.

Idah. Had him on loan before we signed him and look how that's worked out.

Bernardo. Had him on loan then signed him and hes barely kicked a ball for him since

Engels. Our biggest transfer to date and thats not exactly working either.

Luke.. gets 5 minutes here and there.

Nygren. Not the bargain we all thought. What position does he play because he doesn't fit Rodgers system

Trusty. Barely seen him this season. Another decent money signing

Two new Japanese lads.. barely seen them.


I have a feeling we are just going through the motions until he leaves and maybe or hopefully a new manager will be backed. Also its got to be asked who is signing these players if its not Rodgers? That list would suggest its not BR or else hes not to be trusted with transfers. What yis reckon?

Personally I wouldn't give him another penny to spend but again its got be asked who ta * is signing these players??

PS I have a bad feeling already about the new winger

 

* I came here to make the point that BR wouldn't shout at players for passing back but your image makes the same point more eloquently

 

Rodgers made it clear the two Japanese players were club signings. So who is he actually signing and who is the person in charge of bringing in these type of players. There’s a lot of unknown at Celtic because our incompetent board hide behind Rodgers and use him as a shield.

 

Thought he got it wrong yesterday. Subs were too late done. Players looked knackered from the off. Midfield was honking and needed changed early doors.

Utter * show right now

 

He needs to use this international break to sort out what we are doing. We know now that:

- McGregor can’t play as a single pivot in big games this season he hasn’t got the legs for it anymore and his ability to get on the ball is poor just now.
- Tierney isn’t the attacking full back we thought we were getting so how do we best utilise him?
- the midfield 3 balance doesn’t work, we need to come up with a combination that works better, including if we need to swap out at least one of the options in there today.
- to me Shin deserves a chance in the team ahead of the others we have just now but we need attacking reinforcements.

I do wonder if we switch to a 3-4-1-2 or something like that. Play Tierney left centre back in a 3. Give Sarrachi a chance at left wing back. Right wing back is an issue but if we did get attacking reinforcements I would almost be tempted to play Maeda there until AJ was fit.

Need new strikers right enough but we need to try something different as this at the moment is awful.