Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Maybe we watched a different game but Idah was not that good yesterday. There was multiple occasions the Kairat defenders out muscled him to gain possession and there were plenty of times he dropped deep only to give it back to the defence or the one where he hit it way off.

And yes part of the issue is quality but the blame is for Rodgers and the board. Why has he not made it significantly clear we need quality? That is his job.

The tactics? They are his, we’re in the 3rd year of Rodgers. I think a lot of people mention Ange because this wouldn’t happen in Ange year 3 but also because even if it did, we would not have went out on such an abysmal effort. That wouldn’t fly under Ange.

 

I don't think anybody was particularly good but I think all the subs we introduced did more than the players they came off.

As for why Rodgers hasn't made it clear to the board? What planet have you been on? He has made it clear consistently for the past 8 months we need quality, the board have chosen to ignore him and gaslight him in that time, just as they did in his first spell.

Again, you seem to be one of those people who looks back at the Ange era with misty romantic eyes. You might not remember us being routinely embarrassed in Europe in his 2 years at the club. I do. I remember Bodo Glimt rocking up and destroying us at Celtic Park and fans bein furious about it and I remember the return leg 2 weeks later and fans tearing strips off him and the team. I wasn't a poster on here at the time but I say if you go back and reread the match thread your account of events might be challenged. It might also be challenged in the aftermath of the CL campaign in his second season.

We are a weaker team that we were 12 months ago and not is not Rodgers doing, it's the boards doing.

 

I hope somebody asks him if we practiced penalties in the run-up to this game. It was always a possibility so there's no excuse not to have done. I doubt we did before the Scottish cup final either.

 

He's only been a bit more and I use that term slightly vocal in the last few days.
We should have had replacements in place before we sell any of our good players and that was weeks ago if not months, at that time he wasn't vocal enough.
I would respect him more if he did walk and call out Nicholson and the board for their apathy.

 

Yeah, won’t disagree the subs did do a bit better and create more chances at least.

Yes he’s told us for the past 8 months but why has he not forced the boards hand, why has he stayed? If the board have gaslit him and ignored him he should have walked. There’s a difference between telling the fans and actually being able to make it happen.

Under Ange we had plenty of defeats in Europe, I’m not looking back with misty eyes. We can have games where we lose but in an Ange team that doesn’t happen in the same fashion as Rodgers. Also Bodo had already shown they were a decent, tough side to to beat and have continued to be. Miles ahead of Kairat, who are so far down in the rankings they have started from the first qualifying leg and have not comfortably made it through. Every game they have only just made it through, getting past Slovan Bratislava, KuPS and Olimpija, who btw all scored against them. I don’t see how you can even defend that and not blame Rodgers for that, the squad we have should be able to beat them.

And yes we are weaker offensively than 12 months ago, however it is Rodgers doing as well he is to blame alongside the board. It is his job and why he is paid so much money. If he can’t convince the board of the urgency for quality, he shouldn’t be here.

 

Scales was better than CCV by a mile over the two games.

 

He has. Many times over the past two months. To the point he is sick to death of being asked about it in interviews, and it’s little wonder why.

 

He’s said multiple times we need quality, all of his actions seem to be telling at the press conferences. What’s actually happening behind the scenes?

We likely won’t ever find out but if he wanted players in he should be able to convince the board to get the players he needs, or again he could walk. Not one fan would be angry at him if he walked because the board wouldn’t sign the players he needs.

 

It shouldn’t be a battle between board and manager. It’s our board that make it this way. We’ve seen it with plenty managers over the years. It’s as clear as day we are majorly lacking in the attacking areas. Rodgers has said it. McGregor has even been out and said, twice now also. We sold Kuhn over 2 months ago, it should go without saying that he needs replaced surely no? Or does the board think you can just sell your top players and not even attempt to replace them? That’s what they’ve done, but surely they can’t be that moronic to think it was all going to be rosy doing so.

 

Fact every single one of our players should be better than what we played against last night, id argue he's not as good as he makes out. The blame can be shared equally.

 

defence is absolutely not the issue, we've barely conceded a goal all season

Midfield and forward line - that's the problem

 

Pretty damning let's be honest...

Board tied one hand up his back though.

 

I’m not completely disagreeing with you, but I feel he should have been able to get the point across convincingly that we need the quality signings to replace Kuhn and Kyogo. Otherwise they shouldn’t have been let go.

Also, yes I am completely in agreement the board are a huge issue they should know after 30 years here that you need to replace the top players you sold. I’m also saying Rodgers is at fault as well though.

I also worry, maybe the signings have been made that were supposed to replace the players who moved on:

Osmand and Shin are both forwards maybe to replace Kyogo?

Nygren to replace Kuhn though he’s playing cm more so unsure.

Tierney to replace Taylor.

Inamura to be back up to cover LB and CB.

That might seem a bit far fetched and I hope that’s not the actual case but we don’t know really know anything.

 

The defence have been ok so far this year but against mostly opposition that have really tested them to any great lengths. We will have a better idea how good they are when the level of competition moves up i think.

Their lack of ability on the ball was quite apparent against almaty though. For a team that wants to play out from the back i think you also have to include them as part of the problem.

If you knew nothing about the team and watched them over the two legs you would struggle to pick out anyone in the team who looked to be much good.

 

He can't force the board to do anything the board don't want to do. He has gone public before and after about what he wants the board to do and what they fail to do.

 

He’s probably been better for a good few months now imo.

 

Ffs rodgers is a yes nan. Only came back because no other club wanted him and was happy to lick the boards * to get the gig. Elite manager my *.HH

 

I mean he can force the boards hand. He can offer an ultimatum, he needs the quality in or he walks. Not one fan would be angry at Rodgers if that happened.

But he won’t do that. He’ll just continue to talk about it at press conferences, the need for quality.

 

No question. Defensively we were good again last night pretty much all our problems were in the attacking third.

 

Shocking squad management from him as well.

Can't beat a team ranked at the level off St Johnstone in Almaty, the knives will be out for him on Sunday should his form against the huns continue.