Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

He should get * dogs abuse for losing against Kairat almaty, even with that squad. He and his ego can't escape that. They are ranked below St Johnstone in uefa rankings.

The main problem is still the board, but BR is finished here. There is a reason that he have a 100% fail rate in his 3rd season for his entire career.

The best thing he can do is to just go out with a boom and slaughter the board at every given chance.

 

I don't see it that way. I knew we would struggle against them with those attacking options. I wasn't surprised at how it transpired.

I'm shocked that so many people are actually stunned at what happened.

He didn't have a 100% fail rate in his third season at Celtic. He left us with the league more or less wrapped up and dead set for another treble in his third season. I'd imagine we'll still do the business domestically this season if we get one or 2 attacking opitons in moderately above the very poor level we have in attack now.

 

In his third season here last time, he had won the league cup, had us top by a distance in the league and we were in the Scottish Cup quarters. Not bad for failing that.

 

But yet it is with Rodgers we've seen our heaviest defeats near every season hes had us in the CL?

Rodgers cut his nose to spite his face when it came to squad management. But i do accept at the same time i won't get far with this, but our squad is in a sorry and desperate state and it is clear for everyone Yang isn't at the level we require domestically never mind in Europe.

And the reason I won't get far is because it has to do with Palma, someone who likely doesnt get on with Rodgers due to attitude or whatever the reason being, however has clearly been more of an impact on results for us than Yang. Someone who could have been of use during this early CL qualifications.

Rodgers when he came back and made it clear he had say on transfers and now he doesn't when conveniently the fanbase argues whether Engels, Trusty and Idah haven't worked? Not buying it.

Hands up though, I think my point has gotten lost in the aged old Ange Vs Rodgers. Which isn't what I initially trying to make.

Rodgers wants faster football. Yet is clearly coaching them the opposite. The lack of movement and constant recycling of possession between the CB is what we ended seeing too much of when clubs realised back in the day with Rodgers first stint where they just allowed Boyata all the time he could have on the ball.

The way we play, is a failure across the board. The board not setting up and paying the prices required for real talent when we clearly seem to be sourcing talent, Rodgers not seeing what is front of him and still carrying on regardless as teams become more aware of our "style" - making claims of how wants faster football yet nothing changes at all.

 

Like this point I think if ange was manager we would have beat Zagreb away and smashed Brugge at home


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Misty eyed romanticism far removed from the embarrassing displays we served in Europe under Ange. I remember us taking a 4-0 skelping from an average Leverkusen at home and being destroyed by a Bodo Glimt side with a fraction our budget. Nevermind the winless CL campaign

 

Based on what? We drew with Shakhtar home and away. They were levels below Brugge. There’s some serious revisionism when it comes to Ange.

 

I don't want to be the guy that slates our domestic competition, but back then it would be very, very impressive to lose to the huns. He recruited extremely bad (maybe not only him) and left a absolute shambles of a squad that reminds me of what are happening now.

Im not saying he is a rare case because most managers in world football flatten out after 3 seasons. Even managers like Klopp.

 

He didn’t recruit in the third season. To think he did is incredibly naive at best.

 

It would have been very impressive to lose to the huns at any point in the past 15 years and Neil Lennon still managed it.

 

Should this current team beat Kairat Almaty? Yes or no?

 

I wouldn't fancy them to in a knockout tie. I wasn't one bit surprised we failed to score in 210 minutes against them.

 

I honestly think that Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, Motherwell and the Huns would beat them comfortably.

It's the worst humiliation imo. Worse than Bratislava, Malmö etc.

 

2 decent wingers and a striker.

 

I don't.

The huns can't even beat Dundee. This is a side with lots of international footballers and a young lad who was signing for Chelsea who played in the first half.

We lost on penalties I may add. If we had any bit quality in the final third we would have nicked the goal we needed. Our manager has been demanding that for months. We scraped past St Mirren at home a couple of weeks back.

You should not be surprised by this, its been well signposted. You should not be surprised if we lose on Sunday. We are been asset stripped by our board right under our noses.

 

They beat Panathinaikos with luck and Viktoria Plzen who are FAR superior to Almaty.

I get what you are saying but its equally as important to not let BR get off the hook with a pathetic result like this.

Also, he played several players out of position. He left Inamura out who would be perfect for a tie like this. He did not play Yamada or Kenny. He did not take Hatate off untill the dying minutes. He put Adam Idah as first PK taker, the guy with the lowest confidence in the entire squad.

If we had a bit of quality in the final third we should have hammered them like we did with Bratislava. With this current squad we should have beat them still.

 

The fact is I don't see it as a pahtetic result. I foresaw that this tie was going to be a real struggle due to the state of our squad, primarily the lack of adequate attacking options he had at his disposal. You seem shocked by this, I'm not.

It's unforgivable our board put us in this situation.

 

Who?

 

Because it represents that thats the only issue in the team when, imho of course, there are many others.

I think everyone agrees the board carry the bulk of the blame and the squad options were left thin.

I dont know if that explains an increasingly predictable and sussed out approach. They stuck their 7 on mcgregor when our cbs had the ball and we could find a way to get the ball forward. This is before yang and forrest even get a sniff of the ball.

Our midfield three offered criminally poor options time and again. They gave the ball away ad naseum. The set up in general struggles to get value out of the midfield (the one place we have options)

Our set pieces were awful. We looked clueless at throw ins. Our centre backs dont know how to get the ball forward.

With better quality up front we probably do get through but i dont think we go from failing to score in 210mins to running them ragged. We would probably still have had to endure a laboured display which has been happening a good while now.

Their coach was missing 4 or 5 players, including their best one. But he had a look at us and sussed us out and set his team up fit us. We did same as always with no inclination to try anything different really. Watching the team struggle to move the ball.

If rodgers wants to die on the yang and forrest hill fair enough. He has his case. Id rather he looked at the game in front of him and was prepared in the circimstances to try something else. A few long balls forward to chase and get up the field wouldnt have gone amiss.