The board

Everyone on here knows that a boycott / empty stands is the ONLY thing that would have even a slimmer of a chance of getting the message across.

Everyone on here also knows it ain´t NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
Give up my season ticket that I´ve had for 20+ years? Nah, aren´t there other options... ?

You can go on until the sun goes down about not taking Europa League packages, stop buying merchandise et al.
Won´t make any difference whatsoever, there´ll be punters taking tickets for the odd game anyway.
Same goes for season books becoming available.

The status quo will remain for the foreseeable. What needs to happen is for a major player coming in as shareholder, shaking up the dynamic of the board. And that is also unlikely as things stand, since that requires a massive amount of shares being available. And of course, most importantly, that there is someone out there that would have the incentive of taking on such an endeavor. Personally, I can´t see it at all.

Bleak times ahead.

 

The worst part is that we will never see CL football again with them in charge

We have not qualified through a qualifier to the CL since Astana 2017. Knocked out on our * by 5 teams since then. AEK, Cluj, Ferencvaros, Midtjylland, Kairat.

And the issue with our PATHETIC, * PATHETIC, CL preperation have been going on for over 15 years. Its a "vision" they have and if we cant make them change their mind with words, maybe its time to kick their * * and assault them in the ground.

We are at a disadvantage in Scotland just due to being out of season when its qualifiers for the CL.

Our board make sure to add to that every single * year.

 

I brought that up to a mate tonight that point. Sure as * in the logic.


Then we both remembered we were alright shutting half a stadium as long as we were getting trophies domestically under Ronny.

Remember what the change from that was? What the actual moment we decided more effort as a club was? Rangers beat us. And someone never shook Desmond’s hand at the end.

He got offended.

He got Rodgers, record wages, he got the ‘wage cap’ to *, he kept the overall level of profit we had to be in, but he took the gloves off that season.


It wasn’t a half empty Parkhead rhat done it but, was a petty insult

 

* I really wanted to dispute the 15 years bit but… it was * Spartak Moscow the last we prepared properly for and scraped through about 17 years ago wasn’t it!?

 

Yep! Absolutely nuts. Only this buy it self is a reason to get rid of the board. Imagine the coefficent we would be on if it wasnt for them over these 17 years.

We won't see the clubs potential under then, simple as that. They are a great business but we dont and wont see the fruits of that.

 

Desmond needs to die. Simple as that. Until then, nothing will change.

 

This

 

Not even great business. Cautious business. Especially the position we find ourselves now. After MON and we cut back under WGS? We ended up spending more that period than what we had to cut back from. We were losing money before Strachan. Then we worked ourselves into the position we wouldn’t and Tommy Gravesen was on more than Larsson was 3/4 years before, but we could afford that.

And since that? Never done it right. Ever,

 

We pushed the boat out for Engels and Idah.. Lawwell realised he ain't making his 10x profit on them so its back to punts on players nah * heard of. Its simply about making profit with this board, the football is a sideshow

 

Think it’s generally accepted the only reason Desmond has any interest in us is because his son. Who will takeover his shares in that case. Dermot being a Man Utd fan really. His boy will be much the same

 

With decent scouting we could easily improve our squad with cheap punts. The problem is that scouting, along with every other part of the club, is poorly run.

Looking at the figures it's easy to fool people, but the reality is that we are an utter shambles off the park as well as on it. Not sure what the end game is for the guys running the club but whatever it is they need to come out and clarify as I don't think I've ever seen a season where our fans have turned so quickly.

 

I keep seeing this point. Idah scored 3 CL goals, and was pivotal for another against Young Boys even though it was jammy and he done *. What’s the thing everyone says bout Trusty? CL he was brilliant needs to do it elsewhere.

Engels set up 4 and scored 1, penalty aye but he was pivotal to it.

And that was the best season in the CL in a long time they three were pivotal to it.

So if they aren’t happy return on investment, that tells me all I need to know. Might not be £1.5m O’Riley with £30m fee away, but they were crucial for the best CL campaign in a long time

 

That's the problem mate, we are not run as a serious football club. We have literally stood still for 20 odd years. We are run as a business to make money. As long as the profits keep turning nothing will change

 

As a business they could be making far more money if they invested correctly in the squad and implemented a modern set up.

It’s totally negligent, as is the state they’ve allowed the stadium to get into.

 

Honestly if we take away Martin O’Neill the punts have always been so much better for us. Hartley and Robson, or Jiri jarosik, Donati and Gravesen? Scott McDonald or JVoH? VVD at £1.5m or Julien at £7m?

 

Think we've turned so quickly mate because we have all seen this movie before. We all knew exactly what was going to happen. The board seen this as a given yet again, and once again they've * up ny not investing to make qualification more a certainty than a hope.

Keep making the same mistakes but expecting different results its not only negligence its absolutely unforgivable

 

No, the problem is that there WON'T be bleak times ahead... Just depressing ones... We'll still win the league, and probably at least one cup... We'll bounce a few results in EL... They'll still bring in the players they want to, and sell who they want to, to a profitable conclusion...

And while that's true we'll never change, because they believe it's a success (which it kinda is!) and they're not the slightest troubled that we could do much BETTER (which we definitely can!)

 

Sabotaging progress. There is no ceiling with how much a club needs to invest to succeed(whatever that looks like for us) in the CL and the board will be baulking about spending more.

They will be very content for us to be a Europa League team. Much more manageable. They’ll have looked across to a * rangers team making big strides in Europe seasons past and think we can equal or exceed that.

If it weren't for last years very exciting run and performances, I’d agree. For a club our size in a very uncompetitive league with financial limitations with TV revenue, the step down is realistically our only route to a Euro trophy or at least Euro finals.

This is purely conjecture on my part and I guess I’m just trying to shift to some sort of positive light in this massively pish situation.

We’re stuck with a backwards board but maybe they’ve a grand plan us plebs are unaware of. Yeah… sure they do…

 

Maybe a dull analogy but imagine any of us were a chief risk officer in any normal FTSE all share company with a 75m budget to mitigate risk. And we made a call not to spend any of it because things looked fine, only for a 40m error to occur that could have easily have been mitigated with spending even 10-15m.

We would be sacked. Absolutely no question, no debate. Same analogy would apply to finance roles, sales, investments, whatever you pick. A head would roll.

Thats where we are. A chief exec should be gone because of this. Only difference is that our board isnt really a board, its a cliq, and it isnt accountable to shareholders. And even if we removed the chief exec today it would fix nothing.

 

Their form has severally dipped and we won't be making money on them and thats all that matters to Lawwell and Co. As I said the football is a sideshow to them. Buy a player and shift him for profit in less than 2 years. This has backfired spectaculary with said 2 players so the big money buys will be not be happening again. To them its not worth it when we can pick up players for next to nothing and punt for x amount of profit. Problem is these punts that don't work are left playing CL qualifiers for us.

The fact we had, Ralston, Forrest, Scales the two new Japenese lads and a handful of youth players last night is proof that this system is truly and utter broken.