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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

Discuss Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. RalstonFanClubPresident

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    Against equal or superior opposition, which this lot definitely weren’t.

    Ange’s system was flawed in Europe and I’m not confident we would have beaten sides like Leipzig under him last season, and almost certainly wouldn’t have pushed Bayern so close. But I'd fancy Angeball to despatch Kairat, especially at home.

    We created really good chances under him in Europe, even against Real Madrid home and away. The issue was taking them and the even bigger issue was the chances we gave up in return, which ultimately killed us against quality opposition. But Kairat offered essentially nothing going forward across 210 minutes, so I think in this instance the risk-reward might have fallen in our favour.
     
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    Are the board a bunch of *? 100%. Did Ange have issues with them. 100%. Did it stop him adding to the squad. 0%. Did he isolate players because they weren't hand picked by him 0%.

    It's easy to point at problems but navigating them whilst making progress is much more admirable.

    Rodgers is Rodgers, and that's not really a criticism more an observation. Leopards always have spots.
     
  3. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    He has improved both Maeda and Hatate, if those are two that you are referring to. He's also gotten more out of Johnston for me as well as Oriley before him.

    He hasn't suddenly became a * coach or someone players don't respect.

    If Maeda has chucked it, then I'm pretty sure it is not because he doesn't respect or rate Rodgers, given the fact he's literally just off the back of his best professional season with him as fhe manager coaching him every day.
     
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    Folk kidding themselves on that all of the windows while Ange was here were great are part of the problem. His first 2 were good then the rest largely * and as a result our performances under him got worse as time went on, pretty much the norm regardless of who the Celtic manager is.

    We’ve been sleepwalking for years largely due to the fact the Huns are so bad domestically handing us title after title whilst actually doing well in Europe meaning we’ve automatically got into the champions league by doing the bare minimum and only ensuring we’re better than rangers.

    Unsurprisingly the one year we actually have to do a bit of work to get in beyond winning the league we’re woefully underprepared and make a * of it. If folk want to blame the manager for that then fair enough, but they’ll be in for a shock next year when Rodgers has * off and we find ourselves in the same position as now only with a worse manager to try and dig us out a hole.

    Genuinely with the state of the current squad, with a worse manager it’s not a given we win anything domestically.

    Actually I wouldn’t say the squad, defensively and in midfield we are miles ahead of anyone else in the country, but going forward our options currently are abysmal and it should come as no surprise when we continue to struggle to break down * on a weekly basis who can at the bare minimum remain organised and well disciplined.
     
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    Cause he * about, isn't happy when told and tries to get targets that won't happen. He's a moody teenage manager. Never happy.

    The board knew this as well so they are * for letting it happen.
     
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    It was stopping him adding players to the squad aye. I'm not going to go round in circles on this.

    Postecoglou only hand picked the Japanese players..noone else. We can only speculate but it took until the closing hours of the window foe the board to actually get players through the door, it could very easily have been a case of take it or leave it. Much like Rodgers is going to have to do. Then when we end up with 5 duds again like in 2023 it's big bad brendans fault for not being able to spot a player.

    Your post there suggests to me your someone who has always hated Rodgers and has never gotten over him leaving the first time. I think the reaction tonight and to any time we've played poorly kinda shows that no matter what he does/has done, people have been desperate for him to slip up. Which is sad.
     
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    You know this for certain yes?
     
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    No he doesn’t. As with many in here, they don’t like Rodgers, never wanted him back and can’t wait for him to leave again.

    Until then, they’ll make up random pish and talk about the good old days under Ange.
     
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    To be honest I'm surprised we are sitting here with 9 points from 9, domestically. It's that bad up top.
     
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    They might be on paper good enough to play at this level, but the reality is any player needs time spent playing in a team, learning the system and building relationships with your team mates to be effective. Shin/Kenny/Osmand don't have that at all.

    Maeda is a left winger for me all day long. He may have had a purple patch last season and did well centrally but that was circumstantial due to Kyogo leaving not by design. Had we replaced Kyogo he would have stayed on the left where he's at his best.

    Idah is a monumental donkey and pound for pound the biggest waste of money Celtic have ever spent. Again, our board's utter incompetence during the January window we signed him on loan is what started this ever growing saga. A deadline loan deal with no option to buy. He makes an impression and naturally we want to sign him. The incompetence continues and we * about all summer long and eventually take so long we have to fork out an absurd £9M odd to get him in. When realistically he was worth around half of that. So you could argue the board have added pressure on to Idah's shoulders by simply not conducting efficient business. I have no doubts we could have secured him far cheaper if we'd acted in a timely manner.

    Board have failed Brendan, the team and the fans this summer. The simple fact is we couldn't prepare properly for this tie due to their incompetence. Yes we may have had enough on paper to get through but that actually highlights the necessity to actually prepare for this game. Which we didn't do. Brendan prepared, our squad prepared, the board didn't. Simple as that for me.
     
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    It's just an opinion. Nothing more. Just making my case. What I've said feels obvious to me and rational but not going to claim it's gospel.
     
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    ange just won a european trophy for thoes thinking his style isnt suited to europe and spurs were pish
     
  13. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    I think that all this is fairly obvious and always has been. Baffling that people are suggesting otherwise.
     
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    The whole reason he doesn’t just take any * player that’s given to him is because we are still feeling the effects of his first window, where the club bought utter pish for £20m and are in the process of getting rid of every single one of them.

    So, aye. I hope he doesn’t take whatever he’s given. Been plenty of targets we have been linked with over the last couple months that were more than attainable.
     
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    It’s baffling that people are even attempting to suggest it. Utterly ludicrous.
     
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    That game tonight?

    Seriously mate that is a really bad take. That team were one of the worst we’ll play this season. Ange would’ve destroyed them both legs.

    Ange might’ve had issues in Europe but he would’ve beaten dross like that.
     
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    I'd rather he didn't take targets the board are wanting. I don't think that should ever be used as a stick to beat him. His tactics, approach to games etc aye fair game.

    But I'm no gonna knock the guy for wanting quality players on the potch for celtic. We have wasted hundreds if millions over the past 15-20 years on utter * largely due to the board hand picking targets themselves and refusing to budge above a certain bracket of spend.

    Rodgers has tried to change that. Probably failed. And the spend last summer will be used against him and as a perfect excuse for the board to never have to do it again.
     
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    If anything it’s the total opposite. The board will clearly sign who they want. It’s never been more clearer with Yamada and Inamura. Two players Rodgers clearly has no real interest in. So with that in mind, why has it taken 13 months to get the winger from Antwerp. Because the board have done what they do best. * about and * about. Probably tried to get him on the cheap, and now that the heat was on them last week, they have done what they do best. Self preservation and have been forced into getting the deal done to try and deflect the attention away from them. Most are seeing through it, but sadly, still too many aren’t. Not just on here I’m meaning. Nothing will change. A year down the line, it will be the same old story, but with a different manager in the dugout, and it won’t be that guys fault for us going into a crucial qualifier underprepared, which we will. Just like it’s not Rodgers fault now.
     
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    With a £60m striker up front and * knows how much else. Aye. I'm sure we will be fine.
     
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    Because we fluked a win on the opening day with a deflected goal, and Aberdeen absolutely shat the bed in the game at Pittodrie.

    Almaty are marginally better than the likes of St Mirren but just much superior defensively then folk act surprised that a front 3 of Yang Maeda and Forrest haven’t managed to get the job done.

    As is the norm, we’ll now overpay for a couple of wingers we have to settle on cause of no champions league and everyone will then say Rodgers can’t spot a player. It’s a lose lose for him at this stage.
     
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