Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Are any of these things unexpected?

Other managers deal with players not being 100% reliable every single game and put plans in place. Rodgers sitting on his hands doing SFA and expecting something to happen has been normal for 2 seasons.

He's the manager, it's all on him. Why wouldn't it be?

 

Only the last sentence

 

No doubt about it, the squad whilst * is still good enough to be beating that mob. But there’s no doubt he’s working with more than one hand tied behind his back when he’s relying on James Forrest and * Yang in a champions league qualifier in 2025 off the back of selling a winger for £20m a couple months ago.

 

Missing the point again.

He didn't need to play the same formation. ie don't play with wingers if you don't * have any

Too * lazy to play a different formation, happy to dial it in and do the absolute bare minimum until his contract is up

 

Why do folk go on about this like it is an insane amount to spend. This doesn't even equal the money we brought in on transfers last season.

The * downgraded the team so we could bring in a couple of big fees and still make a profit. We've been absolutely conned by Desmond & Co.

 

And I've been all for him up until the full regression to the turgid * the 2nd half of last season.

I didn't hold the leaving against him like many did. But he's got a * track record for developing players, I can go dig out a comment I made detailing the lack of it across his whole career never mind just here, but the fact the team is so clearly regressing is also down to him. We need fresh players, he doesn't play them, of the 7 signed this season, 2 played. Of all those signed last season, 3 played, all of the bench. 2 of which were club record signings.

 

He had plenty of tools for tonights job. Is anyone seriously saying thats not the case?

If so, that's * dire.

 

Yeah Jota, O'Riley and Kuhn all sold and none had a replacement come in the same window. It's pretty insane especially as it was obvious O'Riley and Kuhn were going.

 

Sorry mate, but I don’t know how you can watch 210 minutes of us against them and say he’s almost blameless.

Kairat had no quality about them save them being well organised. Their best players were injured or suspended tonight.

We created nothing with supposedly superior players. He did nothing (and I mean absolutely nothing) to change our shape or his tactics when it was clear that things weren’t working half way through the first leg. We had more than enough to beat Kairat, in spite of our glaring deficiencies.

I think the rot extends deep, but he shouldn’t be absolved of blame at all. It was turgid.

 

He's told anyone that will listen the squad isn't where it should be he's literally said it before, during and now after the event. He was backed last summer and delivered a double and CL KO football. He's not been backed at all this summer and still hasn't been given a replacement for our number 1 striker we lost in January.

He literally came out and questioned if the board even wants the club to progress at what other club in football would that happen let alone a club with tens of millions in the bank.

* the board

 

The board are not fit for purpose and need to go, but come on, he takes a lot of Blame for tonight.

Yes it likely would have been far smoother had he got players in, not one person should doubt that, but this isnt AEK Athens, it isnt Maribor, Cluj or Ferancvaros, it's Kairat Almaty.

This result is up their with some of our worst ever European results, genuinely only behind Artmedia.

Astana, who finished a point behind them last season and are currently tied with them this season, went out 5-1 to Lausanne, who finished 5th in the Swiss league.

Hibernian took Midjytlland to extra time and knocked out Partizan, two teams miles, and I mean miles, better than Kairat. Dundee United narrowly went out on penalties to a team MILES better than Kairat.

I would expect the likes of Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen to pump this mob.

180 minutes of football and he's been unable to find a way through.

We lost a penalty shootout mere months ago and its blatantly clear we've not properly practiced them.

Again, a large part of tonight lies on the board, they haven't backed him and they've paid the price, but Rodgers is a good enough manager that he should have navigated this tie with ease.

 

Exactly. Yang wouldn't get in their team and no harm to Forrest but he can't play every week. Our best striker is our best winiger. We literally don't have 1 capable striker and he's being criticised for not playing 2

 

He had ample enough tools to beat that mob over two legs, or at the very least 1.

Put out over two games against a team who had not one shot on target.

Most of the players need to be held accountable, as do the board for leaving us short going into such a crunch tie.

But, rightly or wrongly, the manager is the one who takes the main flak. That shouldn't be any different after tonight.

 

Do you not think any manager would struggle when he’s had his best right winger sold for £20m, best left winger injured long term (prior to the summer) and his best striker sold in January and then none of them being replaced?

The fact our front 3 for both the qualifiers was as bad as it was is clearly not his fault, unless of course he thought they were good enough and was happy to go with that. I suspect not though.

 

Ok- I'm not literally saying he has ultimate control over every player - apologies if it came across as that - what I'm saying is that he had a such a significant advantage that really it's on him what the outcome is.

 

The captain wants to keep his mouth shout about signing quality as he's 1 of the 1st needing replaced