1. Having trouble logging in by clicking the link at the top right of the page? Click here to be taken to the log in page.
    Dismiss Notice

Liam Scales

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Valhalla, Aug 27, 2021.

Discuss Liam Scales in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Agathe17

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2025
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    168
    But in the SPL we need more progressive play from the back, particularly against teams with a low block and CCV consistently passes the buck and leaves it to Scales to step up. Why does CCV leave to Scales and not show that leadership himself? Is it because Scales is better on the ball than him?
     
  2. Agathe17

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2025
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    168
    Telling that rather than something substantive you only have glib comments. You are spouting nonsense and you can't stand over it.

    I've given you the stats and they contradict your position.
     
  3. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    70,911
    Likes Received:
    37,868
    Location:
    London
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Lubomir Moravcik
    Fav Celtic Song:
    You'll Never Walk Alone
    No, stats alone don't tell you the whole story, and I'm just not being drawn into a lengthy discussion over it because I can't be bothered watching you continuing to try and polish the * that is Scales. He's * and we need better.
     
    MacEwan likes this.
  4. Agathe17

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2025
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    168
    Nobody is talking about them alone. Strawman argument.

    What they are is an independent and objective markers and what they are doing in this context is making a mockery of the absolute bullshit you are spouting which you have nothing to support yourself on.
     
  5. McChiellini..

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2012
    Messages:
    108,235
    Likes Received:
    83,860
    Location:
    Looking down on the mutants..
    Fav Celtic Song:
    For those who are in love.....
    Painful man. Every post is endless mountains of pish..

    Actual brain damage..
     
  6. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Messages:
    70,911
    Likes Received:
    37,868
    Location:
    London
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Lubomir Moravcik
    Fav Celtic Song:
    You'll Never Walk Alone
    That's not what a strawman argument is.
    Lol whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
     
  7. constant

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2024
    Messages:
    1,508
    Likes Received:
    1,154
    To keep people like you amused and informed @Hammy89 :BR1:
     
  8. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    20,960
    Likes Received:
    27,488
    Location:
    Paradise
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Larsson, McNamara, Moravčík, Boruc and Boyd
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA, Fields Of Athenry and The Celtic Song
    It's not entertaining. You spout pish.

    It's not informative. It's retarded.
     
  9. constant

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2024
    Messages:
    1,508
    Likes Received:
    1,154
    You never heard of Hundercovers before @Hammy89 ?

    You should have, the time you should have been on the board. Right enough, some people never learn.
     
  10. BigDoggyWoofWoof

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2019
    Messages:
    2,391
    Likes Received:
    1,927
    There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

    You can't plausibly exonerate nor condemn Scales on the basis of pass completion alone. You need to look at the player holistically.

    He's not atrocious - that's just hyperbole. But he's also a level below what is required to make progress in Europe. I don't see how anyone can question that after the departure of Taylor he is now the weak link across the starting back four.

    Maybe we ask him to do more than CCV in taking the ball out of defence, but I think inarguably his playmaking is predictable. He does tend to just meander up to the halfway line and make a fairly pedestrian pass. Irrespective as to how often he finds his man, there's few successful sequences that begin with a searching pass from Scales. If we need a centre-half to start the attack and play the ball, I think we can do better, frankly.

    Arguably in defence he's no better or worse than Trusty, but we have less 'data' on the latter and £6m sunk into him. We're marking on a curve because we accept there may be more to Trusty we haven't seen yet. We've seen enough of Scales to know there's a ceiling to his development that falls below our minimum standards for a Celtic defender. It's the Taylor argument all over again - he works hard and he's fine for the SPFL, but realistically we can attract a better quality of player.
     
  11. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Messages:
    20,960
    Likes Received:
    27,488
    Location:
    Paradise
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Larsson, McNamara, Moravčík, Boruc and Boyd
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA, Fields Of Athenry and The Celtic Song
    Yawn.

    Bored of your pish. Blocked.
     
    MacEwan likes this.
  12. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2008
    Messages:
    8,624
    Likes Received:
    8,917
    Location:
    Scotland
    Answer this. Because you just ignored it. Can’t come out with pish, get questioned and then move past it.

    Mate I’ve explained it to you about 15 times now why it’s Scales progressing and not CCV. You’ve created an argument that nobody is even talking about now.

    And I’ll repeat, the fact he does it more doesn’t make him good at it. He’s not good enough.
     
  13. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2012
    Messages:
    177,837
    Likes Received:
    105,426
  14. Double Dutch

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2019
    Messages:
    10,859
    Likes Received:
    11,603
    Fav Celtic Player:
    CalMac
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony
    Thought he did well although he's far better at centre half. Bit shaky at first but took responsibility and had some nice passages.
     
  15. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2008
    Messages:
    8,624
    Likes Received:
    8,917
    Location:
    Scotland
    Irish players shouldn’t be getting 100 appearances at my club.

    In fact ban them.
     
    NomDePlum likes this.
  16. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    55,673
    Likes Received:
    44,936
    Location:
    West Lothian
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Larsson. Forever and always.
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Symphony
    Hopefully not our back up left back by September 1st.
     
  17. The_Bhoy

    Joined:
    May 20, 2020
    Messages:
    4,109
    Likes Received:
    3,157
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Larsson
    What about northern Irish players :fear:
     
  18. Twisty . Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    33,752
    Likes Received:
    18,670
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Lubo
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony
    Fine as a rotational option with Trusty at cb but this left back * needs to stop. I know it's BR trying to get his way but the concern is that he doesn't get his way, because he won't stop.
     
  19. Liam Scales

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2006
    Messages:
    82,875
    Likes Received:
    31,957
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Broony
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony, YNWA, Grace
    BR’s not doing him any favours and it’s him trying to drive a point home.

    It’s snide on Scales though that.