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Auston Trusty

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by dbhoy72, Aug 29, 2024.

Discuss Auston Trusty in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. celtic20

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    I’ve said Scales isn’t good enough because he’s too slow on the ball and harms our build-up play because of it. Nothing to do with where he’s come from.

    You’re a stat * because you use them as the only way to judge how a player looks on the park. I’ve said it takes more than just stats to analyse how a player performs on the pitch. They don’t tell anywhere near the full story.

    I’m no surfing about the place and uploading graphs and video clips because tbh I can’t really be arsed. I could probably find you a video of Messi missing 50-100 sitters and tell you he’s pish. Means nothing.
     
  2. Agathe17

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    The reason you said Scales isn't good enough is the thing he's actually our best performing defender at, backed up by the stats I'm not a stat *, I just clearly understand the game a lot better than you and I'm a lot more objective in my analysis. I don't let emotion and prejudices cloud my judgement on players. I don't see why Scales is held to such a high bar that the likes of CCV, Trusty and Starfelt aren't.

    Nobody is staying stats alone can analyze a game but one thing stats are is objective and your views are so far removed from any layer of consistency or objectiveness that it's hard to take anything you say with sincerity. It's not that you can't be arsed, it's that you have nothing substantive to base your argument on. You're spending plenty of time here engaging with me and calling me names so we know time is not your issue or motivation is not your issue as you devote enough of those telling me I wrong, you're just not able to support it. Actual hard pieces of evidence that support your case are the issue, if they existed you might be able to provide them and prove me wrong in a civil way rather than abusing me.
     
  3. celtic20

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    :56::56::56:

    You’re right mate. I hold my hands up to you and the football gods of knowledge at WhoScored.

    Scales is the greatest defender we have at the club and we should build the backline around him.

    The rest of the Celtic support is wrong and you and yer WhoScored heroes are spot on
     
  4. Lewis Kerr

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    Starfelt was ridiculously overrated on here.
     
  5. Agathe17

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    Your problem is you have posted nothing to substantiate your position. I have explained my viewpoint and used statistics that record metrics on footballers that appraise their performances recorded by a well renowned and fully independent organisation. I have given video examples on why I feel that way in relation to Scales against some of his peers. I engage in good faith. I'm open to hearing sides of the stories so long as there is a basis on it and not just prejudical opinions not supported by anything.

    On the other hand you provide nothing to support your opinion. You then disregard independent information that is pertinent to the discussion as irrelevant and furthermore you go as far as to say the information is not only irrelevant but is also fabricated. This loses you any sense of credibility. You can't explain why any of the data actually contradicts you, instead you try and attack its veracity.

    I'm open to correction here but I think that WhoScored take their data from Opta? Is Opta data dodgy?
     
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  6. Agathe17

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    Absolutely the case. He was a car crash at times and when he'd make a mistake his head would go and he couldn't recover. He did have some very good games for us too and I wouldn't say he was a disaster but I'd probably have both Scales and Trusty ahead of him. He was a player we needed to upgrade on when he left but the someone people have obviously rinsed some of his car crash displays from their minds.
     
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  7. celtic20

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    WhoScored and Opta won’t tell you who’s slow as * on the ball. How long they take to release passes. How long they take on the ball and what decisions they make on the ball. There is so much they don’t tell you about a player’s performance.

    My view is that Scales isn’t very good and again IS.TOO.SLOW.

    If he was as good as you say, I would suggest we wouldn’t have bothered to sign someone from Man City to replace him. And don’t say that won’t happen.

    I’m simply telling you not every stat on those sites are correct and that i don’t let them tell me who’s a good player. I use my own eyes
     
  8. celtic20

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    Also no offence mate. Are you using AI to generate your responses with these posts or something?
     
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  9. Agathe17

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    They actually can and all that evidence points to CCV being the slowest on the ball. He doesn't carry it forward like Scales does, he keeps his passes more conservative and shorter, he takes more touches, he doesn't push up in the final third as much, he doesn't play as many line breaking passes. That's all stated there in the data, which you disregard as it contradicts your position.

    The data is objective, it is independent. Your view isn't objective, it's not independent and you've actually provided nothing to support your position whatsoever, you've only sought to disregard all the independent information which contradicts it. That's a head in the sand approach, maybe you should allow that information to challenge what you once believed.
     
  10. Agathe17

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    No. I actually understand the game a lot better than you evidently.
     
  11. celtic20

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    Thought you might say that. Cool
     
  12. muaythai postie

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    Well that's you like myself told...he can have as big a hard-on as he wants for scales and have his stats backed opinion he's better than trusty...I look with my own eyes and I'll still believe trusty is a better player even though he isn't great..he also says so why does Brendan pick him over trusty but also says scales was better than starfelt even tho ange picked him over scales.
     
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  13. Agathe17

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    The stats are independent and objective though. You are not.
     
  14. muaythai postie

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    And you're Liam or his relation and I am not :101:
     
  15. constant

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    Brendan picks Scales over Trusty because Scales is the far more dependable of the two, and has provided the best centre back partnership with CCV over the past eighteen months, and the stats prove that. Two games in, two clean sheets, and yet these posters with agendas against Scales still nit pick his performances to the exclusion of everybody else in the team, except Adam Idah, which just so happens to be Irish too, funny that ?.

    Trusty was hooked at HT against the Huns in the League Cup Final because he shat the bed, and was slaughtered for being a big girl's blouse against Simon Murray, there's no coming back for Trusty after that.

    Ange you say ? Ange wasn't perfect either.
    One dimensional manager, who only knows one way to play the game.
    Spat the dummy out about Giakoumakis criticising him on social media for not playing him, and selecting his pet Kyogo all the time. He did the same with Liam Scales, isolated him in favour of his pet Starfelt, who was not any better than Scales.
     
  16. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Kelvin Wilson knows exactly what Auston Trusty is going through at Celtic.


    The ex-Nottingham Forest defender’s debut season at Parkhead in 2011/12 was a tough ride. He blew hot and cold and by summer, many fans had already written him off.


    Now, a strikingly similar tale is unfolding with USA international Trusty.


    Big things were expected when the Hoops splashed out £6million to land the American centre-back from Sheffield United last year.



    But he now finds himself on the bench playing second fiddle to Liam Scales after dropping down the pecking order.

    Wilson admits adapting to the intense pressure and expectations in Glasgow can come as a shock to the system.


    But after proving his own doubters wrong in his second campaign, Wilson’s confident Trusty will do the same.

    In an exclusive interview with Record Sport, he said: “I think every player is different. Some get a little bit complacent and think it’s going to be easy going up to Celtic.

    “And it’s not. You can’t just win a game 1-0 because you’re going to get hammered by the press and fans. You’ve got to win convincingly and play well week in, week out.


    I think for the lad, he’s had his first season, he knows what it’s about now. It’s just getting into your mindset of what you need to do to be a Celtic player. It’s a winning mentality. People don’t understand when you say that. You learn how to win.

    “You’ve got to be a winner. You win at all costs. You don’t go up there expecting someone to win you the game.





    I think every player has to go, ‘I’m going to win us the game today.’ Whether that’s you score a goal, whether that’s you make a great tackle, whether you block one off the line, that’s the mentality you have to have.

    “I’m going to win us the game today. However I do it, I’m going to make sure. And that’s the mentality I had in my second season.

    “And as well, in my second season, what I always told myself when I used to go on the pitch was, I’m going to be the best player today on the pitch.



    And I think that’s what brought the best out of me. I know everyone will have their own ways of preparing for games, but that’s something that I told myself in that second season. Every game, right, I’m going to be the best on the pitch today.”

    It didn’t take a lip reader for fans to work out what Brendan Rodgers groaned on the touchline when Trusty was outmuscled for Dundee’s third goal in a six-goal thriller at Dens Park in January.

    Wilson said: “I think it’s more physical up in Scotland. Every game against Celtic is a cup final and teams want to prove a point.



    Teams want to impress, maybe get a move to Celtic or get a move to a bigger club.

    “So, you’re playing against that week in, week out. It’s every single week that you need to turn up and deal with the pressures of being a Celtic player.

    “And that’s one of them that every team wants to beat you.”



    While Trusty has struggled to get to grips with the rough and physical nature of Scottish football at times, the ex-Arsenal centre-back saved his best displays for the Champions League.

    Trusty was colossal at the back in away clean sheets against Atalanta and Dinamo Zagreb, and he even helped keep Bayern Munich quiet at the Allianz Arena.




    Wilson knows that feeling well. He was a key part of the Neil Lennon side that stunned Barcelona 2-1 at Parkhead and reached the Champions League last 16.

    And he reckons it’s often easier to raise your game against the world’s best than in the Scottish Premiership.

    He said: “This sounds weird because people are going to say you play against a better opposition. I think in the Champions League, sometimes it’s easier.



    You might be the underdog sometimes. You’re playing against better players, so your game automatically lifts.

    “I think when you go back to the SPFL, you probably get a little bit complacent sometimes. You expect that you’re going to win.

    “I think that’s the case sometimes. That’s the difference between a top player like Scott Brown and a player who doesn’t really succeed at Celtic and moves on pretty quickly.
     
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  18. NomDePlum

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  19. NomDePlum

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    He's got no real tie here. Being here and playing CL football gets you noticed even if you don't start every game.

    If other teams are interested and it works for him sure he'll consider it. Not sure it has to be anymore than that.
     
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  20. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    * sake look who’s battering on in here too.

    Anti-American agenda I think.
     
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