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Liam Scales

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Valhalla, Aug 27, 2021.

Discuss Liam Scales in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Agathe17

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    You're not being objective. The stats should support your argument but the stats contradict and that's the reason you don't give a * about them. He had a few stray passes - that was it. There's reality that Scales attempted 142 passes yesterday and completed 133 of them, there's reality that Scales played a quarter of the game at left back where the passing channels are much narrower and a position that's not his usual spot. It's actually telling that Rodgers uses Scales at left back rather than Trusty, he obviously feels that he is much more comfortable on the ball and much more comfortable in advanced areas.

    The pass at 5.17 is a mistake no doubt but its nothing I don't see CCV doing either. He was also the guy aggressively pushing into an advanced area that fed Tierney to create the first goal yesterday. Does he credit for that or are you going to hang him out to dry for 1 intercepted pass.

    Just drop the facade that you are being objective and fair here. We are after 2 games of the season, one of which Scales was our best player last week and the other when he had a solid game yesterday - why you have your guns trained on Scales is truly baffling. I wouldn't like to see what you have to say when he actually has a bad game. Did you absolutely destroy CCV when he cost us goals against Bruges and Lazio because he made mistakes on the ball?
     
  2. Agathe17

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    It's not pure *, its the only plausible explanation I can come up with for people like you bashing him after another solid display. The criticism you and others are piling on him is completely OTT and it is supported by nothing. He's there on merit, he has seen off the challenges of Trusty, Nawrocki, Lagerbielke, Philips and Welsh because he has proven himself to be a better and more reliable defender than any of them in his time here. That's what the manager thinks of him and I find it hard to disagree with him.

    Do you not think your treatment of him is beyond pathetic?
     
  3. cas79

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    He doesn't look around, he passes and then watches the player he passes to, he needs to keep checking his surroundings constantly, where the pressure will come from who's in position for the pass if it comes back but he doesn't then either gets caught on the ball or rushes the pass and losses it,

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  4. Foley1888

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    Can any notion that Scales is good on the ball be put to bed after that yesterday? It was a disaster-class in trying to play simple 5-10 yard passes and basically led to nearly every half chance Aberdeen had.

    Even his booking was a daft challenge he didn’t need to make.
     
  5. Agathe17

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    He didn't complete 9 of 142 passes. He had the 2nd highest completion rate. It's the same absolute nonsense being pedaled that is.

    You'd swear we had just lost 3-0 and Scales had a horror show. Why is the bard set outlandishly high for him that a solid display gets absolutely panned.

    Are you in panning Maeda for falling over and handling the ball under no pressure when in on goal?
     
  6. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    The majority of his completed passes were sideways to Tierney or CCV. It's a misleading stat.

    The ones where he tried to play forward or even be remotely aggressive, he * up. Some of them in key areas where Aberdeen should have hurt us. I'd also say that even his sideways passing if you watch it, always seems to be behind CCV or Tierney causing them to change body position etc and alow down. I just don't think he's a great ball player. Decent defender, yes. I actually do.

    He's got previous for it. We don't have a CB currently that I would say is great on the ball, so it's not just bashing Scales for the sake of it. Others ain't much better. Hopefully JSP is.
     
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  7. Foley1888

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    Yeah I am panning Maeda I thought he was terrible yesterday.

    Scales misplaced 4 or 5 very simple passes that broke down our attacks and left us exposed to counters which we were lucky we were playing an abysmal Aberdeen team. Most of those were basic passes.

    Defensively he largely done fine but on the ball he was poor.
     
  8. Agathe17

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    And Scales was the guy who was brave enough and comfortable enough to step up 35 yards from the Aberdeen goal and fed Tierney whose cross found Nygren for the 1st goal? Does he get credit for that? Why do fans expect him to be Pirlo or Busquets? He's a centre half. His pass completion rate was 93%, he had 155 touches. What do you seriously expect from him? 100% pass completion? Line breaking passes? Through balls? Assists?
     
  9. Twisty . Gold Member

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    At cb he's capable enough but sticking him at left back isn't doing anyone any favours.
     
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    You just know for a fact if scales was in the Aberdeen team yesterday he’d have a * blinder against us. He would be unreal for a team who just defends. Nothing more asked of him.

    im actually surprised with how much football has turned to statistics and data that a team hasn’t come in for him because he always shows up really well in those.

    a low end prem team or middle ground championship team. Even a bottom end Italian team. All would be great moves for him.

    think he’s a good player to have in our squad and didn’t cost us much. To replace him I think would actually be pretty hard with how we’ve seen so many CB purchases fail over the years.

    luckily with him being Irish and potentially ‘living the dream’ I don’t think he’d have his head turned.
     
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    The minute he comes up against a good right winger it’s gonna end in tears and ruin any confidence he’s accumulating at the moment. Ridiculous to me that we aren’t doing a straight swap Tierney-Inamura when he looked the stand out in pre season. You cannot tell me st mirren or Aberdeen are better than team we faced. Can’t understand Brendan’s thought process on this one other than he’s trying to force the board/club to buy him a new left back
     
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    I definitely there is an anti Irish agenda in play against Scales and because he signed from the LOI, we see it to the same extent with Idah to the same degree, the visceral hatred for both of them by some is off the Richter scale. Scales was MOM last week, and as you have displayed in his stats, his passing was 93% successful yesterday, and I note there is no mention of Scales's goal threat by his ardent critics, he had two headers yesterday that narrowly just went by. Some have a bee in their bonnet for the inferior Trusty, and are just waiting to pounce on any mistake made by Scales, and the other Irish lad Idah make.
     
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    That's just utter pish.

    Not sure I've ever posted a negative comment on Scales so I'd describe myself as supportive of him, but almost all the "negative" opinions are built up over time and whilst I don't always agree with them they are genuine.

    Insulting to those who post here.
     
  14. constant

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    If you want to take offence that is up to you, the truth hurts not insults, but there is no other logical reason that would explain the intense and illogical hatred that some have for Scales, and to the same degree with Idah.
    I see the same illogical hatred and disdain for both Scales and Idah on other Celtic forums too, so I can't help coming to the conclusion that there is more than a smidgeon of Green Huns, with an active agenda abounding against both Scales and Idah.
     
  15. Celtic_Daft1888

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    There's very valid reasons why people don't like Scales and very valid reasons why people don't like Idah. Being Irish is very unlikely to be one of them.
     
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  16. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    I’ve not said anything about him ya doughball. That proves to me you read nothing and just come in spouting pish for a reaction.

    The criticism of him is based off his poor performances, it’s that simple. Trusty was far better in Europe and it wasn’t even close.

    Trusty got * battered with criticism last season and for some weird reason Scales was protected just because the manager said a couple of nice things. People have seen past that now and he’s being criticised.
     
  17. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Anti Irish agenda against Scales and Idah hahahaha.

    * heard it all now.
     
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    Brave?

    CCV was up as well. The entire team pushes up.

    Scales collected it with acres of space and passed it to KT in acres of space.

    Common sense needed here.

    His completion rate was 2nd highest because he’s taking the most low risk passes. It’s the same with any team on the planet dominating the ball. CB’s will have the highest percentage.
     
  20. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Anti Irish agenda from the celtic support.

    Heard it all now.
     
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