Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I’m so happy he came and said what he did in that interview. Essentially, he is happy to stay if he feels like we are trying to be the best version of Celtic that we possibly can be so the ball is in the court of the board.

I think while wildy successful since the turn of the decade, theres always been that nagging feeling that we could he doing a lot more to push on. I feel like we are nowhere near our potential as a club, I think if ran smarter we could and should be lightyears ahead domestically and on occasion have good European runs like a Porto, Ajax does.

This isn’t just about transfer fees, this is about striving to raise everyones levels every season.

If Rodgers gets backed he could do some special things imo, no manager close to gis level will replace him.

If he does leave, we know where the board are at in terms of ambition. An untenable position for them to be in imo if he leaves due to lack of ambition.

 

Can't wait for Lenny's third time managing us after getting the sack from * Dunfermline.

 

Fingers crossed. Atleast lenny could win a treble on his second stint

 

I think every week that passes they are getting closer and closer to us we need new quality signings now to push ahead of them .The money is there the players we need are there just get it done celtic .I keep getting flashbacks to the covid season surley the board are not that * stupid .Why do we always seem to shoot ourselves in the foot worrying times if we do not get our * finger out

 

He's fuming and no wonder. This year will definitely be his last. The fact he's not been offered a new contract says all you need to know, Rodgers is outside their budget.

 

Technically if you go back to the covid season, we thought we done very well in the transfer window tbh. Turns out we done *.

 

Desmond won't sell ever most likely and the fans will keep buying tickets.

 

It's more of a desperate plea since the season starts for us on Sunday.

 

That’s not even shots aimed, that’s a nuke from him. I’m delighted to hear it, I can remember the moment I fully 100% no matter what backed Ange, it was when Midjtyland beat us in the qualifier and his interview after aiming a similar point at the board. Saying he’s not doing his job well enough, because he’s obviously not made others understand he needs transfers and quality in.

Rodgers here has went several steps more than that here, and he’s done it brilliantly. His last stint the McGinn summer, his interviews then in contrast to now is worth seeing, his comments there are level, well thought out, unarguable and matter of fact. That summer his last stint was more stroppy, sniping and was mentally checked out and done.


This was a warning, a last chance. And the balls in the boards court. He’s left them no room to hide. I hope we see a reaction to it, it’s a direct measure of our ambition. We’ve always had suspicions, theories, accusations, now we’ll see outright what we are. And I haven’t got high hopes for it. Either has BR in my opinion.

 

To my memory, anytime there’s been proper anger at those in charge, Desmond’s never had to deal with it. It was aimed at Lawwell usually, at Bankier, at the recruitment staff, at the manager in charge. He’s always dodged it, mostly because how rarely seen and heard he is. He’s not out in the open to get it more than the ones that are in public view.

If it goes straight to him, if he can’t dodge it, I wonder if he’d consider if it’s worth the hassle. We’re pennies to him, as a shareholder what he gets in return from us is not any sort of amount he’d probably even notice.

If it’s more hassle to him than everything else he does, that he’s earned his billions with, I think he’d sell up then.

And it’s starting to focus on him more and more. And the manager we have just now has totally just won the fans on his side if it comes to that. It’s not like when Lenny was left dangling to soak it up himself.

 

The board wants rangers to be strong. Their dream is for us to win 50/50so all stay focused on the huns instead of bigger things.

Get the protests starting. We need them gone

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I dont think this is the case, but just for the sake of a discussion.

Could BR be as big of a problem here? Could it be a transfer power struggle where he has targets he wants, but the club refuse to get those and as a "payback" BR refuse the players presented to him?

Sure they can buy them anyway but if he say that he wont play them the board wont bring them.

I highly doubt it as i said

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I think it’s blatantly obvious the issues lie within our own recruitment set up and the men holding the purse strings.


To my knowledge we have a lawyer in charge of the player negotiations, instead of a director of football or someone that knows the landscape of the game inside out we have a bunch of very old very comfortable board members who treat it like a bowling club and who probably get more of a buzz selling a player for high profit than any on the field success.


I don’t think this is a * for tat with Rodgers and the board, he wants quality in and they’ve shown they only care about collecting money for a rainy day. They thought the summer window for Rodgers first season back was acceptable as it’s “low risk signings” … a lot of which were still trying to get rid of to this day.


The one time we did actually back Rodgers to an extent we made progress in Europe and more money … who would have thought?

 

Im behind Rodgers 100 % as a manager......However.....His Transfer activities in all his clubs is far from his best.

If the board happen to give him say £25 million this season....Thats near £50 million in 2 seasons......But look at last years signings if we are honest they are kinda hopeless as it stands.

What if he does this again?

The board are utter * and i want them gone regardless but if Rodgers is leaving this season and spending say £50 million plus in 3 seasons (which we can afford) what if the next manager comes in and doesnt rate any of them and we struggle to get rid?

Its proper rock and hard place this one.

There is absolute no excuse though that even at this moment we shouldnt have a squad better than last season.....All on board the scummy *.

If Rodgers states he wants to be here longer and the board set this up....I believe all of this would be different and they would back him like last season.

And again....If Engels/Trusty and Idah performed as they should have and were a success right from the off then i also think this would be different as they might have gave him a lot more money for targets.

All Ifs and Buts though...

End of the day.....Board need to go regardless.

 

As long as we win the league, they will get away with whatever approach it is they are following now. It will be enough to keep things spilling over.

As soon as we dont though, I think things will go nuclear unless they change what they are doing or at least come out and engage with the fans around what their decision making is based on.

The mistrust is just building and building and the only thing that releases the pressure valve is lifting the title. As soon as that doesnt happen it will get explosive I think.

I dont understand why the board cant acknowledge this fractured relationship and at least try to address it.

 

I honestly don't think it is a rock and a hard place tbh my main concern with Rodgers coming back was his recruitment as his first spell the success was essentially Ronny's team plus Sinclair. We all know how his first spell ended (McGinn etc) so surely they would have known in reappointing him he would want certain guarantees in the transfer market. Whilst Idah, Engels and Trusty may not represent value for money just now they all played roles in a double winning season where we made literal progress in Europe which is something the manager spoke about at his unveiling. If the board don't trust him in the market then they should let him go but if they want him to stay for this season at least then quite simply they must back him

 

To me though there is risk averse and there is this. For example see this overpaying for Idah, Engels and Trusty, I believe we could sell Engels just now for a small profit given his age and profile, probably not the upturn we would have hoped when we sign him but a profit.

Trusty I think based on his CL games we could get all but our money back for him.

Idah we would need to take a hit the fact a Serie A club fancy him we should be able to get a decent amount back for him.

All in even if they were all a write off we still made an 8 figure profit in player trading last year.

 

Idah our own incompetence made him a 9m player, if he was 5-6 people wouldnt have the same hang ups.

Trusty is give or take what £6m gets you from England.

Engels was 20 and it's ridiculously early to make a call.

 

Spot on. There is no team in the world where every signing is a hit and the more you pay the more the misses feel bigger. But the way its framed it is as if we need to write down a 25m loss. When as you say, Engels is probably equal value and Idah and Trusty we might take a small hit, but really so what in the context of 75m quid in the bank.

Simple put we should just be trying to improve. Selling players for 10-25m and replacing them with 10-25m players shows that. Even replacing then with 5-10m players shows we are serious about progressing within a stricter model. But replacing then with 1-2m players isnt even pretending to try and improve. Its just coasting hoping to be better than Rangers and nothing more.