Lennon Miller

TBH Ive never saw Miller as outstanding against us or the Huns(some glimpses yeah,but not immense)...would he raise the level of our midfield at present or be another Turnbull??

 

We'd get better for those prices banded around. We're not needing another mccowan that's not good enough.

 

10 million is a * * take, motherwell can swivel if that's the figures they're looking for. A year left on his deal means I'd offer less than half that but even if he signs a new deal for them, I'd still no give them 10.

Think people are getting way too misty eyed with this boy and what he can bring to us.

 

Good luck getting 10m lol. Just ridiculous how the * clubs in Scotland think they are entitled to extreme sums just because clubs pay big for Celtic players. It dosnt work that way.

Norwich could ask for big money for Idah because they have sold several successful players. We can ask for big money are we are respected after selling players going on to be successful.

A good example is the huns. They have players that are decent but they wont get much for them because they don't have the selling reputation where players go on to be good.

 

People just think back to McGinn and think we are missing out again.

Whilst he has potential there are no guarantees he will be even half the player, tbh I have not seen enough of him personally to have an educated opinion.

But for 10m I am certain there are far better players out there.

Whether we can scout the players or not is another topic alltogether.

 

A strong Scottish spine to the team is so important for me. He is probably the best out there to buy in that regard. If it can be done it would be excellent business. Maybe turley and bonnar going other direction on loan.

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To be fair too, talent comes along more frequently for Motherwell than it does us.

turnbull at one point, Johnston, miller and I’m sure if rice hadn’t moved over sooner to rangers he’d be the same

 

If i came across as arrogant is was not what i meant to do. I think it is just realistic.

Why are we getting more than double the amount of what Rangers can get for a player? Because we have fantastic track record of selling players. The huns dont and the same goes for Motherwell.

Not even Bazoumanne Toure who played for Hamarby and got sold and was one of the best talents i have ever seen here in Sweden got that kind of money. Because they dont have a great track record of selling players. It is just how it works really. Im not saying Motherwell cant get 6-7 million, but 10 million is ridiculous and they will not get that obviously.

It is unfortunately a unfair system but it works like this all over europe. I would love to get 10 million for my Swedish premier league teams star player (Halmstad who sit mid/bottom table) but we wont get 20% of what AIK/Malmö would get, because we are a small club with even superior track record of sales in the past.

 

is he as good as engels to be demanding such a fee ? motherwell are right to stick a big number on him ,dont think they will get it .

 

Whilst I think you’re correct in some aspect, teams value their players at what they value them. If miller is good to the club he won’t push to leave.

Toure should have gone for £10 mil himself but hammarby didn’t hold out long enough or push for it because they probably couldn’t risk losing that extra £3 mil. Yet I bet they 100% would have got it if they waited longer as so many teams wanted him. And also weren’t we quoted around £9 mil for him ourselves and we didn’t want to spend that if I remember right?

 

Yeah i know and the teams have right to do so but i am judging all this on a player with 1 year left on his contract. Imagine if he had 4, would they ask for 40 million?

To explain how i think it is crazy in a decent way is to look at Benjamin Nygren who we are linked with. He is ripping it up in Denmark, and ripping it up in the Swedish National team. He has 6 months less on his contract but is avalible for 2 million.

 

He’s 3 years younger but to be fair when we signed Engels I think that was way way below current market value. Still think he’ll be a huge success too to say this was his first year

 

No they’d probably still value at £10 mil no doubt. What they have in their favour here is miller isn’t publicly pushing or forcing them to move him on. If talks are true he’s gonna sign a contract extension to cover them then fair * to the boy.

 

Fair play, we can't all agree. May i ask you a straight question that is hypothetical?

Lets say that us and the huns did not play in Scotland and every club was of Motherwells quality. Do you still think that they would still demand 10 million for him in a league that would be of welsh quality with a year left on his deal?

They would be lucky to get 2 million if that was the case i am 100% certain of. A irish or welsh team dont get that kind of money and that would be the stanrard of the league. They demand these prices only because of what we are demanding. Celtic have earned the right to demand big money because of a long tradition of selling players and of hard work becoming the club it is today.

They are trying to ride on our success in some way, but i can't say i blame them. I would want to get every single penny out of a house im selling.

 

No player gets the chance to play 70 games in Ireland before they get hoovered up by the English clubs. Usually get pinched before they appear or after 20 appearances! So don’t think it’s a fair comparison.

and the Welsh league isn’t even as good as the conference league in England so can’t compare that to our league. Motherwell, Aberdeen, hibs,hearts and Dundee United are all clubs with a long history and some form of European or league success.

I know your whole point is you don’t think they should be asking £10 mil for miller but good on them. The more clubs like Motherwell ask for their players the average value of players from Scotland is bumped up. I’m all for it if he’s not due to come to us

 

If the Hun * are asking for 25 million for Raskin, and 20 million for Igamane, then fair play to Motherwell wanting the best price possible.
Scottish teams always sell their best talents far too cheap.
We were the same for a long time, but now getting £25 million etc for our players

 

If the lad had pace I'd say pay them the £10m but he doesn't and I don't think ever will, so he's not really what we are needing.

Personally I also think for his own development he'd be better going to Italy, or a league abroad like that, where he will probably be playing almost every week against stronger oposition than we do.

So while I'm not totally against us signing him, I just don't see it as being a good move for him or us at this point.