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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yeah Howe, Maresca, linked with Iraola as well, got Rodgers twice - shows that we can attract a certain level, calibre and style of manager that is above what we've had to endure in the past (Lennon's, mowbrays, that era we constantly got linked with Coyle).

    I'm in the camp of wanting Rodgers to stay and for the club to back him.
    But I don't trust the club to do that.

    Time will tell. But the day we do are Rodgers leave, the calibre of manager we can attract is higher than folk may realise.

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    Needs to make a decision on his future soon.

    I don't see the board backing him, especially with no new deal signed and he can walk away for nothing in 14 months time.

    If we lose AJ, CCV, Kuhn, Hatate and/or Maeda then this summer is gonna be a rebuilding one and the board will make it their own if Brendan doesn't sign a new deal.

    Maybe it's best for a change in the summer so the board will commit to backing a new manager.

    I'd rather keep Brendan but don't wanna see him ruin his improved reputation with us by potentially * everything up next year with players he doesn't want.

    Whatever happens it needs sorted ASAP
     
  3. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    We were linked with Iraola before he went Bournemouth and we went for Rodgers. Think there's every chance we'd have seen an upgraded version of Angeball under him given how he has Bournemouth performing in a much tougher league.

    He's certainly the most proven manager we could hope to get, but we could definitely find someone as good - just need to be proactive (I know...) in scouting our next manager long before he goes.
     
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    Lot of hindsight in there.

    I don't believe Maresca or Howe to be miles ahead of Rodgers.

    Rodgers won an FA Cup with Leicester. Howe the Diddy version of that. I don't believe him to be a better manager.

    Will stick by what I said. The success Rodgers has brought over both spells here, player development, way he handles the media, periods of 'crisis' etc. It won't be easily replaced.
     
  6. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Potentially.

    But as above, I dint believe Howe, Maresca or Iraola to be better managers.

    Given Rodgers has had just as much success in England as any of them.
     
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  7. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I wouldn't put Rodgers miles ahead of them either though - Maresca for me the least impressive of the 3 but might've still done a job with us. Just find it quite a bleak view that this is as good as it gets for eternity and it's all downhill when Rodgers goes :giggle1:
     
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    Not saying it couldn't get better. I hope it does.

    But I think to flip it the other way, people still underestimate how hard it is to find a manager who's had as much consistent domestic success as him. We've been very fortunate. It's why it * me off a bit that as soon as there's a blip the knives are out with many and desperate to have a go at him. Not saying you, either, btw.

    These other managers mentioned are all very good but there's no telling how they'd handle managing a club our size. That for me is one of the biggest selling points with Rodgers. He's been there and done it both here and Liverpool.

    Hopefully someone else could replicate it.
     
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    Think the board has a decision to make, offer him a new deal and back him in the summer or he gets a load of loan deals like in his last transfer window and he’s off again.

    my issue with the current planning is we hardly ever forward plan on the pitch side of things.
     
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    I think you can do well, but I think the reality is Rodgers does this job for 50kpw. Sounds like a lot, and it kind of is, if he'd have waited he could have gotten that or more from a PL team. He's accepted 50kpw because he has an affinity with the club. His final season with Leicester was poor, although if you look at their recruitment that season I don't think it's really all on him, but a job would have come available for him. You see Cooper getting it. Steve Cooper, Gary O'Neil, Chris Wilder all gotten new jobs in the past couple of years. I imagine they were on 40-60kpw and they are all half rate managers. If we want a good manager, we probably have to take a well scouted punt ala Postecoglou.
     
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    Can’t see him staying, professionally - he will have achieved as much as he can within his constraints at Celtic and can see him giving abroad a go.

    Then personally he’s settled the issue with us as a support, which was probably for his ego knowing him.

    I personally think if we can sort recruitment out he has a CL quarter final in him with a good draw.
     
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    Sad as it is, I believe that will be the case. Of course we will always win stuff in Scotland regardless of manager, and if a new guy comes in and wins a treble in his first year then people will move on from Rodgers pretty quickly. So I'm not suggesting things need to get bad just because Rodgers leaves. But objectively I think we are unlikely to get a better manager for a long time.
     
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  13. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Without trying to downplay the job any of our successful managers have done and their importance, it's still the players who go out and compete to win. I'm hopeful that the winning mentality is fully instilled in the vast majority of players and staff at Celtic and will continue to produce more success, so long as we recruit a coach who has the chops and ambition to lead us.

    We should never be over dependent on any individual, whether it's a star player or successful manager.
     
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    I for one desperately hope he is be backed and he extends his contract.
    If that happens it means the board have finally stepped up, our ambition matches our potential and we keep our elite manager.
    Huge summer lies ahead, especially if 49'ers cash incoming across the city.
     
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    How he deals with "Periods of uncertainty/crisis" is the most important part you've highlighted, alongside developing players.

    During his third season with us, we went out the CL to Athens and whilst the football wasn't great, I think we done well to keep comfortably top for the majority of that season. Murmers of him leaving and losing out on key players he clearly wanted but again, we remained top and still won the treble that year/

    Plenty of times last season we went through a patch I think any other manager would have struggled with. The 1-0 win at Ibrox, we were in a right state and quite a few had the huns favourite for that, yet we went there and won. Lost back to back against Killie and Hearts yet managed to recover from that. Not saying another manager would continue to drop points but it wasn't easy to regroup from that, around the same time people wanted him gone. Beat the huns in two cup final despite us being far from 100% in both.

    This season has been a lot smoother for the most part, but after the Dortmund hammering I think a lot of people lost faith in him when it comes to Europe, but for me he massively turned it around. A very impressive draw away to Atalanta, great win against Leipzig and we done the job against Young Boys, only real poor result was Zagreb away, but even then they Beat Milan two games later so clearly not as bad as some make out on here.

    Don't think anything needs to be said on him developing players. What he done with Tierney, Dembele, Edouard, Forrest, McGregor (both stints), Armstrong and Sinclair can't be understated. All players who were still developing or looking past it and Rodgers came in and completely changed them. Bar Dembele, they'll all have major positives to say about working with him.

    Even in this stint, the likes of O'Riley, Kuhn and Maeda have developed massively under him. O'Riley and Maeda were both decent under Ange but it was 100% Rodgers who got them to their best.

    Not saying I fully agree with him being the best we'll get, but I think people need to be careful what they wish for when saying we can get better.
     
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    We can’t get a like for like in terms of quality and experience that Rodgers has but all the managers we were linked with outwith Rodgers are absolutely flying.

    Have to aim for the next big thing and we are a very very good club to showcase a talented young coach imo.
     
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    I look at iraola and think we missed the boat big time with that especially when it was him that approached us now madrid want him


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    Unless he is going to Saudi for big money where else is he going to go?

    There is no big jobs down south and maybe he’s realised better the devil you know instead of risking it all again.
     
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    Yeah I agree with all of that. That's why we need a model in place that means we are not wholly reliant on manager running the whole club, covering for our poor scouting, etc. I don't think we have that though
     
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    Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers has delivered his verdict on possible league reconstruction in Scotland.


    An exclusive in The Herald last week revealed discussions have taken place over a possible switch to a 10-team top flight. The split would also be scrapped.

    Any change would have to be sanctioned by 11 of 12 Scottish Premiership clubs. There has been no formal proposal for the change beyond discussions within the working group.

    However, Rodgers has warned the league should not be decreased in number as he suggested an increase in teams would be more beneficial.

    I have just heard that, I haven't seen that but someone mentioned the possibility of it getting smaller or increasing," said the Celtic boss.

    "I certainly don't think it needs to get smaller. If it goes any way I think there is still a notion for me that we could bring a few more teams into the league.

    "Clearly, there is maybe issues around TV revenue or money but I think from a football perspective, I always felt an increase of the teams in the league would help."
     
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