Celtic to face Class Action over Boy's Club abuse

They wouldn't have to relive anything if we pleaded guilty mate. No cross-examination.

Case closed without going to court. Wouldn't be surprised if we include a non-disclosure agreement as part of the settlement.

 

Pleaded guilty to what? There were no criminal charges to plead guilty to.

Also, discussions between both sets of solicitors have been going on for years. Court was always the last step, and if the solicitors representing the victims wanted to go to court they would have.

 

The * old board left our greatest manager to take the blame for this fiasco.
When Jock found out about the abuse he demanded their removal and called for police investigation.
They got the * fired then forced jock out and got the * back.

 

If even remotely true , paints a horrendous picture of everyone involved.

 

The first part I'm sure is 100% how i read it ages ago and certain wronguns (Torbett) definitely slithered back in..

The Kelly's would've had a lot to answer for, that's for sure..

 

You're clearly absolutely clueless if this is your stance. * poisonous * you're spouting.

 

the daily record reporting that only 70 % of the victims have agreed to this payout ,so rather than draw a line under it ,it will rumble on and their solicitors werent long in highlighting the fact they paid out was an admission of guilt ,in that they were somehow the same club

 

Trials are both painful and unpredictable. No wonder both parties were trying to avoid them. That said, if we were willing to plead guilty to all potential charges in court, the outcome wouldn't have been unpredictable anymore. Most importantly, the victims wouldn't have been forced to relive their experiences either. I bet the whole situation would have been resolved much faster.

I fully understand it's a very sensitive topic for all of us. What happened was terrible. I love and support Celtic, but I feel the need to support the victims in their struggle against Celtic. Some things are more important than football. Hope the settlements bring some sort of closure to a decades-standing ordeal for the victims.

 

Why hasn't members of the old board been interviewed by the police as stein got rid of torbett and someone years later brought him back and who was responsible for that .

 

Reported as no NDA so ye'd be wrong on that too.

 

Heard about £4.7m in total a few months back

 

Just find the whole situation abhorrent and embarrassing should have been settled years ago

 

Is the fee, not that it is even relevant, not paid through insurance? I’m sure I read something perviously, that was why the club were staying well away from it.

 

The fact that we have let this drag on for so long is embarrassing, any surviving members of the old board should at the very least be publicly shamed

 

Celtic should have paid then went after the old board members and their estates and any money from that going to organisations that help child victims of abuse in Scotland.

 

Civil claims can potentially be paid via insurance, depends on the insurance. If it was then the insurance company would be heavily involved in any discussions on claims.

 

Good that its finally dealt with for the victims,not good that it has taken so long

 

Probably so little evidence of exactly who knew what, did what, people involved either dead or getting close to death. Which has sadly helped those involved escape justice.

 

The * Huns are loving this.
The * are saying that Celtic should be giving all the money in the clubs account to the victims but not for the victims sakes but so they can overtake us in trophy hauls.
No mention of the fact they haven’t mentioned their own pedophiles or compensation paid to their victims.
Filthy club.
Just hope the victims of all clubs pedophiles get fair compensation and justice.

 

This has obviously been horrific for the survivors; I hope now they can access the best trauma counselling and find some form of peace—which will be difficult because I think the sickening chants of opposition fans will be louder than ever. The media are already repeating utter BS and half-truths from the vultures at Thompson’s.

From my understanding, Jock Stein allegedly heard of the rumours and booted Torbett out the door. There is no evidence that anyone called the police.

If Jock had heard the rumours and gave Torbett his marching orders, then there is no question that the board knew. So who allowed him back, and how can Celtic possibly say the rumours only came to light in the 1990s when The Celtic View printed a story about an internal investigation in the 1980s??

On the other hand, it seems that it WAS just rumours until Fergus came in. The first formal allegations were made in the 1990s; Fergus didn't p*ss about and called the police. So, he is one of the few people coming out of this with his reputation intact.

Since then, I believe the Club has cooperated with authorities, which has led to the jailing of some of these absolute beasts. We've also taken steps to implement robust checks and child protection measures.

If I'm correct, more survivors made allegations years later, so I'm not sure how the Club can be accused of sweeping anything under the carpet or shirking their responsibilities during those years if there was nothing to shirk from. (Ideally, we would have been proactive following Torbett’s first sentence by launching an independent inquiry and setting up a fund for abuse survivors to access help.)

However, at the beginning of this Class Action, Celtic attempted to claim no liability. When it became clear that that wouldn't work, we changed our tune, admitted historical contact between both clubs and expressed sympathy and compassion for the survivors. Would we have made those statements had the court accepted Celtic’s claims that we weren't liable? Perhaps, perhaps not.

The priority here is the welfare of the survivors, and I don't think much of Celtic’s statement.

Although it would've been complicated and had to be handled sensitively and legally, there are still unanswered questions about who knew what. Were things covered up? Was it simply horrendous negligence? What conversation did Jock have with the board, and what conversation did the board have with Torbett when they brought the creature back?

As someone said above, the vile Kellys and Whites allowed our greatest-ever manager’s name to be sullied over this. It's no coincidence braindead mutants started a campaign against Jock. Would they have started that smear campaign against Jimmy McStay, for example? Of course not. It has always been about jealousy, bitterness, hatred and point-scoring.

The board members from 1974-1994 had/have questions to answer, and as appalling as this sounds, so did at least two parents of one of the survivors. They found a letter he'd written, intended for Torbett. Allegedly they sent it to Jock Stein—rather than the police—and received no reply. At that point, rather than confront Jock or Torbett or contact the police, they did nothing, never told their son they'd found the letter and allowed their child to continue playing for the Boys’ Club because the dad (a Rangers fan) didn't want to look like the bad guy by stopping his son’s potential Celtic career.

I mean, WTAF?!

The blame lies with the evil scumbags who abused kids, but several people don't come out of this well.