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'Honest' mistakes 24/25

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Callum McGregor, Aug 20, 2023.

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  1. DonnyCelt

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    Daily Ranger saying fans have found an image that proves VAR got the call correct.

    It's exactly the image that would in fact prove the call was inconclusive due to the angle.

    Hahahaha
     
  2. saltire78

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    Our angle is even further from the byeline, so it would look farther... It definitely went further over than that pic shows, but from that angle there's no way they can conclusively overrule a linesman at the pitch...
     
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    The club needs to use this opportunity to stamp out this cheating while it has not been as impactful to us. The linesman and ref gave the goal. What did he see that was so conclusive that he had to overrule them. Clearly cheating hun at its finest. Alan Muir has constantly cheated against us and he needs to be sacked.

    Going by Brendan comments saying VAR guessed (which is completely true) the club needs to press the SPFL for answers, an apology and also actions/sanctions against Muir
     
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  4. saltire78

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    Fans ALWAYS find angles/pics/theories that support whatever they want... On this forum alone there's images that make the ball look like it didn't even get over the line at all, when it clearly did. VAR is supposed to eliminate that kind of opinion and speculation, otherwise stay outta the way... This looks like a bias being writ large to justify cancelling the goal, because I'm not seeing anything legit to show enough doubt to justify interfering
     
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    Looking forward to hearing what Collum has to say about this. The audio will be interesting - personally thought on balance the ball was probably out, but this isn't even about whether it was or wasn't- the ref has been overruled without evidence to back it up. No one would have batted an eyelid if the ref/lino had given the goal kick.
     
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  8. Gerry1972 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Celtic must demand to see the image and hear the explanation that they used to decide that the ball was fully over the line. For them to overrule a linesman that had the best view of it, there must have been a reason, which we all know what that is.

    All been said before but we all know why VAR (hun) took the decision to overrule.
     
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  10. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I've seen one that looks like it's out as well.

    The fact is the still pictures or videos don't prove anything either way and that's exactly why VAR cannot intervene.

    Ludicrous decision. I still feel that the officials in this country are just downright incompetent. There's zero consistency and the way we implement VAR is awful and *. * camera angles don't help.
     
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    I'm probably one of the few that actually don't give a * about whether it was in or out......I'm more wanting this cheating against us now brought to the forefront now more than the goal or non goal itself which was given

    We all know this ain't the first time.....its far to common and its also far too common that the Huns benefit the other way around.

    As Neville has proven in his video as soon as you bring a camera away from a straight line an optical illusion will appear and it makes distance and depth perception far different than it appears.

    Today was blatant way of attempting to chalk of a chance of coming back into that game.....To disregard a lineman's duty when he was also the best person in the stadium to view it was an utter disgrace....He gave the goal and for VAR to intervene with a guess is absolute shocking.

    I also as many had the same rage the night of Jotas World goal 2 seasons ago that was chopped off for offside and the same angles where given again and the optical illusion thrown in with the positioning of the camera.


    I actually hope the reaction of our manager makes its way to the Board who can see now how rage inducing this is becoming now.....On a near weekly basis the VAR vs Celtic is beyond a joke......and we pay for this.

    What is it going to take for this to be highlighted? Finishing 2nd via these decisions and loosing out on absolute millions? A severe injury to one of our multi million pound players ? A manager to leave due to the wrongful decision making week in week out?

    Time for Board to step up now and demand answers to today....If Audio is also available then even better.....How did they overrule a linesman on a whim?
     
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    Looks in to me Screenshot_20250222_225129_WhatsApp.jpg
     
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  14. Rydo1888* Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    you keep drawing lines like that mate the sfa's gonna be offering you a job :84:
     
  15. DonnyCelt

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    I've seen many people saying you can clearly see it's out by one or two angles.

    But yet again I'll reiterate, perspective is everything. Just because the ball appears just over the line at the point of contact with the turf within those angles, the reality is that a football is round and and if you are looking directly down the line, the likelyhood is that the ball is actually still on the line. With the proper technology in place and the proper camera angles this disallowed goal would've imo most definitely have stood, having been proven to not be fully over the line.

    But also, within the rules of the game, if the VAR is inconclusive, then the on field decision stands, which today did not happen.
     
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    Alan Muir is a serial offender against Celtic.

    Brother Muir has a list of biased and prejudiced decisions going against Celtic over many years.

    The notorious Josh Meekings hand ball incident, stonewall penalty denied at Kilmarnock in the Cup last year, Muir this season on Var denied Celtic a clear penalty (and red card) for a push on Maeda at Motherwell which Collum said was a wrong decision, and now today's shenanigans at Hibs, to name but a few.

    The Celtic Board need to pile the pressure on Willie Collum to get Muir shitcanned.
     
  17. Liam Scales

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    Funny enough I was talking to a mate who knows him, not his good mate or that but well enough to say Hi.

    He’s apparently a died in the wool Tim. The mate who told me he’s not one to talk pish about stuff like that, I believe him 100% on it. But by * was it a surprise, I said take it he’s a Hun fully expecting him to say obviously. He would be at our games before getting higher up in the referees ranks. He’s either just absolutely rank or overcompensating
     
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    You ever see Sky Sports video about an Arsenal decision that was similar, it looked miles out from a similar angle as we seen today. They have that computer generated birds eye view. It was in. And it looked miles over the line.

    Look I can accept it could have been out but BR is spot on with what he’s trying to address about the issue, it needs to be 100% evidence of it to overtirn the on field decision. And both ref and linesman clearly had made the call it wasn’t out, it wasn’t flagged by the linesman, who all day would flag after letting play continue probably more than any other linesmen I’ve seen. So that’s the on field call.


    And there’s just no way they can show 100% evidence if it’s over the line or not. We don’t have the technology, enough cameras to cover the angles and it’s a guess. They might have guessed right, but we can’t know for a fact. And that’s the issue. They pick and choose about following the guidelines or they use it as a way to re-ref the game.

    The problem is when it’s * like this, we call it out and that looks like an excuse for us being poor when that’s when we speak out. We have these concerns consistently, I want us to call it out when it goes in our favour, it’s the way to actually achieve any change about our concerns. This one today we’ve stressed, it’s the same as the Cup Final and the Huns one with Scales. And when they were having their strop, that’s when we should air our concerns and stress the issues. Because we benefited majorly. If we only do it when we’ve played poorly, it’s always going to be looked at as excuses and sour beans. We need to be smarter.
     
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  19. DonnyCelt

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    Muir? I'm sure he's a hun mate. Even huns supporters have admitted he grew up a huns fan. Either way the guy is a complete * a needs removing as he's that bad.