Mathias Kvistgaarden

The thing about Celtic signings in this and previous windows is that mostly the media and us guys haven't a clue who we are or aren't going sign. It's all guesses and Chinese whispers. "If" Celtic sign somebody before the deadline there's a good chance it'll be "where the * did that come from?"

 

We just lost our main striker and the window had 2-3 days to go.
We have a whole load of cash resting in our account.
We have been trying to buy this guy for 3 windows already - could have secured him for much lower fee a year ago but we let it go and grow.

That's a prime seller market and an awful buyers market.
Lastly, we start looking at Iheanacho (if it's true) with 48hrs to go - if that's not desperate, I dont know what is.

As someone mentioned earlier, it's prime won't pay for Toney so let's get Ajeti territory.

 

First bolded part
1. Do you have any evidence we could have had him at a lower fee?
2. Do you have any evidence Brondby were willing to sell him last year?
3. Do you have any evidence that the player was wanting or willing to sign for us a year ago?

Second bolded part I'm sure has been debunked in here several times, Toney rejected us as he wasn't being guaranteed first choice and it wasn't about money

@henriks tongue quote from Toney about the Celtic move


"We went to Celtic, we spoke to Celtic and I think it was the same there. I'm one of three strikers or something like this. I think at the time when I was moving, I wanted to be the main guy.

"The crucial thing for me is playing games. Even though I back myself and compete with other strikers, I want everyone to know that when I'm bursting through the door, I'm the main man up front.

 

He aint coming. End of. HH

 

On Kvistgaarden - we simply move on - but much, much sooner than we have done.
Why haggle for months then wait until end of window before finally realising the seller won't and doesn't need to back down from a clearly stated position and price made weeks ago.
Especially true in a sellers market with 10 minutes before closing time.

On Iheanacho, you are right I don't know for sure - but it's indicative of the desperate situation we are now in that we get linked with anyone and everyone who's becomes available, especially if historical BR or Celtic link.

 

I couldn’t agree more with ur thinking.
We got 10 million for 30 year kyogo and 25 million for jota and o riley

 

Yep. It’s bollocks that it’s too much money. That’s the going rate now. We spent £9m on Norwich’s back up striker.

£12m or so on a younger striker, with more career goals (and goals in European competition), with the likes of Leipzig and Frankfurt sniffing about. That’s not overpriced at all.

If he’s the number one target, pay the money. We’re not struggling for it.

 

To be fair mate, you could be a Hun a few years ago talking about not selling Kent or Morelos because they’re not getting Dembele offers, and we all know how that ended.

The good thing is we’ll see what they eventually get. We’re not the only club refusing to match their valuation at least as it stands.

I think we overpaid for Idah because we were desperate and Norwich knew it. It’s not something we want to keep doing and not a good argument to keep paying over the odds.

I don’t think Kvistgaarden has ‘European goals’ in any meaningful way. I think he has a couple in the third qualifying round of the conference in ties they got knocked out. It’s not nothing but it’s St. Mirren and Kilmarnock level stuff, a million miles off even EL group stage.

Leipzig and Frankfurt have plenty of money too - if they’re genuinely sniffing around then they clearly agree with us that he’s overpriced by Brondby (but I know I’ll end up with egg on my face when they sign him for £15m )

 

Whilst this is all true, we don't actually know what's going on.

They could be asking for £20m for all we know.

If it's anything under £14m, just pay it and move on. He's clearly the one we want.

 

Could see us going back in tomorrow with a 10m plus addon take it or leave it offer

 

Brondby probably thinking, why would we sell our main striker mid season, fighting for the title.
Unless for top dollar and if replacement lined up.

Surely any sensible club would be crazy to do that?
Oh, wait a minute didn't we just.....

 

I'm hoping for that but seems very unlikely. I hate our transfer dealings man

 

Surely that’s only a problem if you’re the selling club? Morelos could have performed very well for Lille. Rangers took the risk and it backfired on them because Morelos essentially clocked out. He wanted the move and they rejected it.

It looks like Brondby are willing to accept a lower amount than other teams have accepted for less experienced players.

 

I’m not sure I understood the first part mate. The point is, the Huns looked at values we were getting for players and it made them hold out for more money than they were ever going to get. They rejected fair offers and it backfired and cost them millions.

If Brondby are looking at what other clubs are getting they need to be careful they don’t so the same.

I think there’s more to it than that, it’s a complex subject difficult to analyse in one post. For example, one of the players mentioned has a good deal more European experience (and I think goals) than Kvistgaarden does, even at a younger age.

Fundamentally, two clubs have decided to buy two players that are younger than Kvistgaarden, for more money, instead of buying Kvistgaarden. I’m not sure how that pushes his value up but I do understand the general point of how similar situations help inform price.

Besides that, Brondby’s valuation isn’t being matched by any football club in Europe (as it stands, of course. Fair play if they get it.). By definition that means the price is too high for now.

 

So it's just our players that throw hissy fits to leave then is it, every other player seems perfectly happy to stay where they are.

If thr player himself isnt forcing brondbys hand then we should walk away cause he doesn't want to be here enough.

 

Feel like I’m refreshing this transfer thread every 5 minutes. Only to be disappointed

 

Why are people arguing what a players worth, its not us personally spending it, the manager will know the true worth as they have scouts etc doing their homework, unless anyone here is a top scout?