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Ange Postecoglou

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 29, 2021.

Discuss Ange Postecoglou in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. celtic warrior

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    Still maintain he'd do wonders at club thay actually has a proper recruitment structure that outside Brighton really not many in the EPL have as it appears to be a "we've got the money and prestige so we can just get the names regardless"
     
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    Seems fed up. Seems to have lost his mojo. Seems genuinely hurt that we almost never sing his name.
     
  3. SkyeCelt

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    He won't need to work again if he doesn't want to. It'd be interesting to see him at somewhere like Ajax.
     
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    Answering questions from journalists that seem to even feel a bit sorry for him. He doesn't seem to realise the position he's in.
     
  5. HoopyT Danny McGrains Bearded Army Gold Member

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    He's fine I seen him in his garden earlier throwing some shrimp on the barbie...
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  6. murphy88

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    The signings have been poor and some odd as well. Spending £40m on Archie Gray for example. Now I didn’t watch Leeds every week last season, but any time I did, he was playing right back. One of Ange’s signings at Spurs who has looked good is Porro. So why spend a large chunk of the transfer budget on a right back when you are clearly struggling in other areas, such as our wide. They have then brought in Werner on loan who is absolutely dreadful. He has to take a lot of responsibility for the shambles they are. Folk were banging on about it being exciting to watch. Aye if you are a neutral it is. If you are a Spurs fans you are pulling your hair out.
     
  7. Peter T. Lawwell Esq Chairman of Celtic FC PLC

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  8. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I think the signings are mostly good.

    Gray for me actually looks a very good player who might develop into like a Rice or Ben White type player, he is only 18 and he's never a centre-back but he's a decent build and mobility and technical and clever on the ball than in 2/3 years he could be quality.

    Same with Bergvall, he's recently playing holding midfield but he's technically really good and will probably play more of an attacking midfielder and in 2/3 years could be quality.

    Van De Ven also is one of the best players about in his position.

    Solanke has been really good for them as well, I was unsure of him but he leads the line very well for them.

    Johnson as well would probably do the Abada role really well for them, pacey player who can come on get in behind, score goals although hes had no real competition and the rest of their teams hasn't been good enough for him to play.

    Dragusin and Werner probably the only two bad signings although Werner is only on loan probably as they don't have the money to buy someone else.

    When their squad is fit either Ange or some new manager will reap the benefits as I think they have a better XI than Newcastle, Aston Villa and Man Utd, what would be their squad players also like Davies, Gray, Bissouma, Bergvall, Johnson, Odobert and Richarlison aren't too bad could probably upgrade Davies and Richarlison but their team and squad if it was available is probably the 4th best team in England.

    They also have that boy Moore who is 16 who got the assist today who will likely be very good in a couple of years.

    Just they have been massively hampered and not really had any bench available to them all season and even half the season so far had half their starting XI out as well.


    Odobert and Richarlison have been out almost the whole season, Moore also out for months, Van De Ven, Vicario and Romero for months, Solanke was injured a few times earlier in the season and not over a month again, Udogie I think is going to be out another month, Bentancur has missed about 12 games, Bissouma handfuls of games.

    The amount of injuries they've had is unheard of really. On average probably up to now out their starting XI and 9 man bench they've probably missed an average of 7 players per game all season.

    Where as for us this season we've probably only missed on average about 2 per game maybe 3.
     
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  9. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Far too easy to play against.

    I get the injuries etc but conceding 3 against that Everton team is wild.

    Tactically I think he leaves a lot to be desired.
     
  10. murphy88

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    Not having that the signings have been mostly good at all to be honest. Solanke and Johnson are pretty average to be honest. Not terrible but they aren’t the players you need to be getting into the top 4. Gray was a sizeable outlay and when they already had Porro, I think it was a silly signing as they would have been better buying a winger in my opinion. Dragusin and Werner are hopeless. Bergvall hadn’t really done anything of note either but wasn’t bought for a huge amount and was one for the future so may well come good. Vicario did look good, but then quickly looked very suspect with crossed balls and it was causing them all sorts of problems.

    Van de Ven does look very good and Kulusevski is a player I’ve always liked and is a good signing also. Odobert can’t be commented on.

    Last season we had a lot of injuries. We still managed to win a double though. There were times last season we had some massively depleted squads. Now of course we are more likely to overcome that due to us having a better squad than the rest of the league. However, Spurs have still got a better team than a lot of the teams that are above them, or are at least on par with them. These teams have all got injuries as well. Not as many granted, but their managers are finding a way to get results, Ange isn’t. With the injuries, he has still had enough to be able to grind out results. He has just chose to leave them wide open and not try to adjust his system. It’s just plain stupid to be honest. If he was trying to setup more defensively, I think he would be getting an easier time of it as well, as the injury crisis is well known to all. To still try and play the same was however and getting pumped regularly, you are always going to get crucified for it, and rightly so.
     
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  11. greengrocer

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    I don't think a lot of the signings were his tbh. Seems like they were pushed on him. Just don't suit his style
     
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    In some bizarre way, I think they have to stick with Ange.

    Getting someone new in will still inherit the same players and injuries they have. Yeah, they make pick up a few points extra under a new manager, but that new manger bounce won't quite be there if they're still playing a patched up side.

    Who's available now they could get in? Not a great choice. Anyone worth their salt, would have to be bought out and that'll take time. Wouldn't think k they'd have much to work with in the window either.

    Sack Ange, get another temp in Ryan Mason until the summer where they start the whole process again.

    Ange has his faults, and they're glaringly obvious just now. But the problems are Spurs are faaar deeper than the manager. They've seen off plenty of decent ones and none seem to have a decent word about them. Maybe Pochettino.

    Bit losing the fans will seem him punted soon enough. Levy needs all the credit in the bank he can get going forward. Sacking Ange is a quick easy way to do that.

    Haven't suggested Ange changing up, that'll never happen unfortunately.
     
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  13. ILoveTheCeltic

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    If he gets sacked it will just be a caretaker for at least a couple of months.

    Solanke, Vicario and I think Udogie are out till March, Romero and Van De Ven another 2/3 weeks, then im not sure about Johnson, Werner, Bentancur, Bissouma, Odobert but you are probably talking about March before they will have players available again or back fit with a couple of games under them.

    Van De Ven and Romero also have basically been out since October, only came back 1 match and both got injured again so the time they are back they'll have barely been fit for 3 and half month.

    Someone might fancy their chances of taking over them in the middle of March and having most of their squad fit and back for the last 8 games or whatever.
     
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  14. murphy88

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    Think some fans think Van de Ven and Romero got rushed back for the Chelsea game, and it backfired spectacularly. Both out injured again long term and got scudded in the game.
     
  15. Ak1

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    Obviously lots of talk and criticism about Ange’s gung-ho tactical approach.

    But weirdly, nothing about his approach contributing to the injury problems.

    As far as I’m aware, most of Spurs current injuries appear to be muscular tears/strains, which is equally on Ange through load at training and game management.

    Not sure they’ve had tons of high impact collision injuries - although happy to be corrected if I’m wrong.
     
  16. The Thumb

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    Probably past the point of ever happening, but I've always believed that Moyes would have been highly successful here.

    Obviously at the expense of attacking football, but he's superb at organising a side to be difficult to beat with a bit of added grit we've long been missing.
     
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    Just reading all the moaning Spurs fans on a BBC article..this made me laugh though

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