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Foley1888 · Oct 3, 2024 at 11:26 AM

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I thought what killed us was we played like this WHILE DEFENDING

Kyogo

Bernardo ------- Engels
Maeda---------------------------------- Kuhn

McGregor

Taylor --------Scales --------Trusty -------Johnston

Schmeichel

Our two centre mids were like higher than our wide players I felt until the 2nd half when Hatate came on and played closer to McGregor but then Engels played like even further forward.

While attacking it looked like we played like this

Kyogo

Maeda ------- Kuhn
Bernardo---------------------------------- Engels

McGregor

Taylor --------Scales --------Trusty -------Johnston

Schmeichel

And we'd move the ball to our full-backs and down the line to Bernardo or Engels and then from there through like McGregor or Kuhn/Maeda on the inside and we'd push forward as a team but Bernardo and Engels were too far ahead of McGregor or too wide that whenever we tried to play our way out we only had 1 or 2 guys as options to pass to as they were pressing us quite high that when Johnston passed to Engels say nobody was really near Engels and Johnston was too far away to get next to him so Engels had to always keep trying to slide balls into Kuhn and a lot of the time we were just giving the ball away then left like this....

Kyogo

Maeda ------- Kuhn
Bernardo---------------------------------- Engels
-------------------------------RYERSON

GROSS=============
------------BRANDT
ADEYEMI----------------------------GITTENS
McGregor
GUIRASSY
Taylor --------Scales --------Trusty -------Johnston

Schmeichel

Like almost every time they intercepted the balls meant for Kuhn or Maeda, they instantly had like 5/6 on 5 attacks with space everywhere and it happened about 15 times in the game and we never brought our two midfielders deeper to stop it even when it got to 3-1 and 4-1 we kept going like that basically almost gifting them chances everytime we lost the ball.

We kept playing the same way like Rodgers must have thought, we will play Bernardo and Engels high and when we get the ball we'll move it to them and get attacking for fun but it never worked and we didn't stop trying it and just constantly let them rush forward on our wide open team.

Plus our defence was still really high, so everycunt seemed in constant panic that every time we lose the ball we're wide open and theres 30 yards behind our defence for them to run into and this is probably the quickest attack thats played against us in years.

Was only in the 2nd half we changed to more like this

Kyogo

---------------Engels

Bernardo---------------------------------- Kuhn

Hatate ---------------
-----------McGregor

Valle--------Scales --------Trusty -------Johnston

Schmeichel

Hatate came on played a bit deeper nearer McGregor and him and Valle played a bit better on the ball probably cause there was a wee bit more options so they could hold the ball more and were nearer each other. But Engels disappeared more out the game as he seemed to get left to go more attacking and we barely got forward so he was out the picture completely.

I thought we'd have sat Bernardo, McGregor and Engels in the middle deeper as a 3 and tried to be more solid but they were miles apart, essentially set up like a wide inverted triangle and nowhere near each other so we could attack through them but we never got a sniff of the ball in their half to make use of it.
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Great post the only thing I would probably say is even McGregor was further up the pitch than what it shows there and Can was also ahead of our two other centre midfielders and Couto had the full right hand side of the park to run into as Taylor and Johnston kept coming in close to the centre backs.

We had this big u shaped gulf of space around our back 4 where their front 4 and even midfield 2 could play in with largely our front 5 beyond that. You absolutely had to ask Johnston and Taylor to hold width and pull the misfield three back even ask McGregor to split the centre backs when out of possession Maeda as well seemed to get pulled into trying to defend narrow in the midfield due to the lack of anyone else so our full left hand side was wide open. Brandt started going there constantly because he knew he would get space.

For me I would like to see us close that gap between our defence and midfield going forward and make us far harder to play through, it would also give the man on the ball in possession more options to get out. We did this well in preseason where we were able to string 3 or 4 passes together and by that point release Kuhn or Maeda.

Skelleto · Oct 3, 2024 at 12:14 PM

Yes we got pumped by many different reasons. We are a good side but oh my * * how good was that Dortmund front 3? Possibly the greatest performance i have ever seen from a front 3 in over 15-20 years.

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Craiglang · Oct 3, 2024 at 12:52 PM

Easily our worst loss since the 3-3 defeat at Ibrox

adequate citizen Zenon · Oct 3, 2024 at 1:03 PM

The tactics were purely suicidal.
All on Rodgers in that respect.

Park the fkn bus if needs be next time, allowing Kyogo and Maeda to seek their chances on the counter.

Those 2 freak ricochets for their goals were quite unfortunate as they really didn't need that much luck on the night...

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