Champions League 2023/24

Think they used them all up last night mate...

 

Even villa who have far better players than us have the sense to play on the counter and not press constantly against Bayern and thier the home team.

 

Ok, we've been an embarassement on the pitch yesterday but Aston Villa is an even bigger embarassement off the pitch. 90% of the time you can only hear the Bayern fans singing. They just sang for over a minute Bayern, Bayern and the Villa fans did nothing * me, they are parhetic!

 

I’d take Parkhead being silent and drawing with Bayern at half time.

 

Embarrassing how much they turn the mics up for English teams. About ten folk singing and it sounds like the full stadium is bouncing.

 

3pts over atmosphere every day of the week

 

Benfica 4-0 Atlético Madrid. Let's * go.

 

Surely that Duran has to play over Watkins soon enough

 

Villa look pretty solid all over the pitch. Backed up by solid tactics. Could do quite well in this competition.

 

Some result, probably one of the biggest beatings they've took under Simeone and he's been there about 12 year.

 

Well done on that result.

 

Incredible result that.

 

Lille - Real Madrid : 1-0

Da best !

 

Should stop any patter about not being able to bridge the gap in budgets and quality in one off games that. Something we used to do often was not give a * about the gulf in quality and budgets and find a way around it.

We don’t acknowledge that so much anymore, play like we normally do in domestic games and point towards that chasm in budgets, players etc. like that’s beyond us.

It’s far from it. Mentality needs to change.

 

Don’t think the jump from Lille to Madrid is that huge, Lille have some cracking players. And when you have a player like David up top you only need one chance

 

The jump from them in my mind anyway is massive, Real I always expect to be one of the favourites to win the competition and it’s surprising if they don’t get to the latter stages of it, Lille I’m more surprised when they make the CL and aren’t a Europa team.

They have good players, David is one I’m surprised hasn’t made a move up to another team by now, I think Lille would be surprised 5 seasons into his career they’ve kept him there and he’s performed like they hoped as well especially last couple seasons. He’s performed internationally as well.

But the gulf between them and Real Madrid is massive. Lille is a team when we’ve came against them we don’t think they should be far away from us, quite rightly for me as well that, compared to Madrid they’re a speed bump they should easily take care of.

Certainly, I think the gap between Lille and Real Madrid should be comparable to ourselves and Dortmund. Dortmund got to the final last season against Madrid and it was largely viewed that Dortmund had to big a gap to be able to beat Madrid, they gave them a scare first half didn’t have the quality and got dismissed in the second.

There’s no bad teams at this level but there’s next level teams. Madrid are one of the biggest examples possible of that.

 

I agree with what you’re saying but now at the top top level because of finances and the money available the gap is slowly getting smaller between those top teams. The gap between us and dortmund isn’t even comparable to Lille and Madrid. Like we said about David; maybe a £70 million + player? I know he’s recently just left but yoro to United for £60 million. Andre Gomes went for £50 million at one point, angel Gomes too will go for big money soon back to England. Dortmund are then even better than Lille and further from us. Adeyemi will be the next £80 million-100 million player. They have a full front line of under 21 players at like £60 million minimum!

I’m not saying that Madrid don’t have the best on paper/richest worth of squad in football atm. I’m just saying that the drop between them to a dortmund or Lille isn’t that much as they have comparable players.

But then us to a dortmund there is not a single player we have that is worth £25 mil even now; o’riley has gone and who else could we sell at this moment for that? Then it goes down into the worth of £10-15million for maybe 5 of the players….then less for the rest.

It’s not an excuse for us not to perform, but to me it’s not as surprising seeing a Villa beat Bayern or a Lille get a win over Madrid anymore.


I think what we do need to worry about is Zagreb scored two in Munich and have scored 2 against Monaco!