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Cameron Carter-Vickers.

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  1. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Metatarsal...not ideal.

    I'd play Trusty alongside Scales. Nawrocki should be ahead of Welsh. Despair if he isn't.

    Again with CCVs injury history we'd have ideally got rid of Welsh and got another CB in. Still think it's another position that can be further added to.
     
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  2. martin_d

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    Only because left-footedness is rarer than right-footedness. Having two CBs with the same foot preference is surprisingly common. It’s just usually two right-footers. Having two left-footers is no better or worse than that.

    Also, you’re putting words in my mouth re Scales. Why would it be Scales to move to RCB when he’s the one who’s used to the system, and used to playing LCB within said system?
    The natural choice when CCV is out - if especially if Nawrocki’s judged not to be fit - is to play Trusty at RCB. Similar profile to CCV into the bargain (albeit a bit taller), and crucially, he hasn’t played in Rodgers’ system yet, so wouldn’t as big a leap for him to come in on that side as it would be for Scales to move to the right.
     
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    nah. Rather have him fit and firing every single game. We’re a Better team with him in it but if he had to leave then we’d be getting big money and could be replaced.
     
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  4. murphy88

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    I’m not putting words in your mouth, that’s just my thoughts on it. I’ve not seen enough of Trusty, but I personally just cannot see Scales on right side. So in my opinion it would need to be Trusty, however he might be as equally one footed as Scales though, I’m not sure. As I said to another poster, I think it hampers us from an attacking point of view as well because it’s not as natural for the player to get the ball out his feet and move it quickly. It’s a more difficult pass to find the winger, and that is a big part of how we try to attack.
     
  5. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    We need another CB in January. Needed one more in the summer.

    CCV is immense but he’s becoming a constant injury worry now. We need someone capable of filling in for him or eventually replacing him.
     
  6. PaddyJamieson

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    Aye, got to be Trusty alongside Scales.
     
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    If we need 1 more it has to be an association trained player if they were to be in the squad or we'd need to drop someone.

    Who would you take that fits that for us?
     
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    The one more in would likely replace Nawrocki for me. Welsh if he goes will be replaced in the squad by someone like Dane Murray next year as a 5th choice back up.

    In January we should look at Ben Cabango at Swansea or Zeno Van Den Bosch at Antwerp who have expiring contracts come the summer and look to sell Nawrocki.
     
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    The one more in would likely replace Nawrocki for me. Welsh if he goes will be replaced in the squad by someone like Dane Murray next year as a 5th choice back up.

    In January we should look at Ben Cabango at Swansea or Zeno Van Den Bosch at Antwerp who have expiring contracts come the summer and look to sell Nawrocki.
     
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    Not necessarily. Depends what sort of pass, and - maybe crucially - which winger.

    I didn’t hear you or many others making such ardent arguments about Starfelt on the left. One or two did sometimes mention getting the ball out quickly enough, and I do agree with that, and always prefer one right-footer and one left. However, if we tolerated 2x right-footers for I literally dk how many years, we can do the same with 2x left-footers for a handful of games or less.
     
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    I really liked Starfelt, but if there was a fault with him, it was on the ball. Which I think was mainly because naturally it is more uncomfortable for him to be playing on the left side of the two. You think about a centre half playing a pass to the winger. If the centre half is playing on the wrong side, I think it gives the full back more of a chance of intercepting the pass. I think it’s easier for the winger to take the pass on the half turn if it is passed from a centre half playing on the correct side also. I don’t think some fully appreciate how much more difficult it is for the centre half, especially in a team like ours who always want to play out from the back and pretty much all our attacks start with them. Which is testament to how good Starfelt was. Trusty might be fine as I said initially, but it is undoubtedly more awkward.
     
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    Yeah I can see Welsh leaving in the Summer, Murray then being 5th choice. Nawrocki should be the one to go, he's obviously not fancied and he takes up a European spot. If he can't even be 4th choice what's really the point in having him around?
     
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    Mate, all I’ve ever said is that we can get away with it for a few games if we managed with nearly the exact same thing for years. I was one of the few saying the above about Starfelt’s right-footedness (genuinely don’t remember you saying it but fair enough).
    Also, I’d now add you’re being a bit unimaginative re CB passing options; it can actually make it easier to pass to the other winger when you think about angles.
    But that aside, I think it’s quite clear who the better option is for RCB between Trusty and Welsh, and even between Trusty and Nawrocki, given that the manager has never had faith in the latter.
     
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    All I said initially was the only problem with it is they are both left footed. I’ve also said a couple of times I’ve not seen enough of Trusty, so although from the little I have seen he looks totally one footed, he might adapt well. That’s a naturally harder pass for the centre half to make the one you are talking about, due to the number of opposition players they would have between them and the winger. It’s probably still the two I would play at centre half, I’ve not suggested I’d play anyone else beside Scales. It would undoubtedly make it more awkward for us though. Nawrocki actually looked decent on the ball I thought. Pretty clear he obviously isn’t showing enough to get in the team though, and I’d trust Rodgers on this.
     
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    Missed training again today


    Hopefully at home resting up ahead of the cl game next week
     
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