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What’s our scouting and recruitment plan?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Liam Scales, Feb 20, 2024.

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  1. saltire78

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    The reason is probably because a genuine project in our league will be £2-3M and one from abroad can be picked up for ~£1-1.5M. The board would rather gamble on the cheapest option from leagues/players who think we're medium level than get tied in by terms from clubs who think we're cash cows to milk...

    There's no way we'd have gotten equivalent to Kyogo, Maeda or Hatate deals from our own leagues. And they'd be hoovered up by the English if they had that kind of potential anyway...
     
  2. Sgt Neppers*

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    Seems to be all on Rodgers at the moment.

    Why are the suits so against modernising of the structure of the football side?! I don't get it.
     
  3. Celtic_Daft1888

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    It's genuinely the strangest thing about the place, to be honest. Better recruitment which is ran separately from the board surely breeds more money coming in from transfers, probably a better way of managing the wage contracts.
     
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  4. Crilly Hakuhna matata

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    Would it be because they’d have to fund it to set it up and then also fund the requests/fees for players from the lads in recruitment then also otherwise they are pointless positions. So say we get in a dof and whatever else comes with it and they are identifying targets or what we need etc which costs money and the board don’t want to do it then it’s pointless. This is a guess btw, not sure if I’m being too pessimistic with my thinking. Hope I’m
    Wrong and we get one sorted and start to progress as a club
     
  5. McChiellini..

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    It's bizzare..

    They either are against going down that route or they don't know how to approach it..

    It badly needs sorting..

    We got lucky with Ange
    We got away with it twice last season

    We won't keep getting lucky/away with it if it isn't properly addressed..
     
  6. Lewis Kerr

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    We don't have one.

    I for one am pretty worried about this summer's transfers.

    Rodgers' history in the transfer market is very poor, so if we're relying solely on him that's already a red flag.

    Speaks volumes that we might need to though. Why we're not modernising is beyond me, pure laziness and stinginess imo.
     
  7. john2061

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    I agree with a few on here they knew Joe Hart was retiring at the end of the season so had plenty of time to scout two or three keepers to target and if we haven't signed a keeper in the next 3 weeks what the * are we doing .
     
  8. AdamRS Gold Member Gold Member

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    I can only think that due to us being so good domestically they won’t see any justification for change.
     
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  9. Sgt Neppers*

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    Word for word perfect.

    Ange was the anomaly. Now we're back to a 2 decade old structure.

    For a club thats so well run as a business. How they can't see there's more to be done off the field. The outlay for this would be made back quickly. Better players unearthed and sold for higher profits. Going further in Europe earning more money. Which appeals to players who want this exposure and success. Trophies still being won domestically. Maintain higher level sponsorship. Fans return spending lots of cash. Even more so if they see the progress being made.

    It's continous circuit. Hire the correct people. Let them work to their strengths and clubs vision and strategy.

    May result in loss of power to a slight extent for the suits, but overall they're still the folk in charge who hire and fire. There's no down side to modernising. It's utter baffling.

    Aye, spot on. We won't get away with it again. Especially having to negotiate CL qualifiers. Board might say, aye, what if we don't get in we need the reserves of cash. OK, flip it. What if it works?? More success all round.

    Just a familiar story from the club. All done in silence.

    Let's hope this message is all * in the end and they are working hard at recruitment amd the set up behind it.
     
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  10. Liam Scales

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    Historically I’ve far preferred our recruitment not having one than to having one. Or Lawwell acting as a de facto one.
     
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  11. Liam Scales

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    We overlooked Lewis Ferguson, and nobody on here thought he was good enough, I suggested it on here and consensus was even his family aside he wasn’t deemed good enough as a player. That was wrong in hindsight.

    But other ones lately? We got Turnbull. We got Greg Taylor. Both played their part in success both deemed not good enough. Calvin Ramsay wasn’t worth £8m to us, and we had better infront of him at the time. Hickey we went for, 3 times he’s knocked us back. Once when he was actually at us, and the boys judgement was spot on tbf.

    Josh Doig is another who gets talked about, he doesn’t suit us at all and even with decent showings in Serie A - not outstanding, decent, he still doesn’t and would be a transfer that while a good player would be pointless for us and him.

    Miovski and Lennon Miller right now though, Miovski we are choosing between him and Idah. And Idah came in due to Aberdeen not wanting to sell in January.

    Lennon Miller, I’ve heard nothing even linking us to him. And that’s a worry. Because he is a must for me, that boys got something special
     
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  12. henriks tongue

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    I know it's still very early, but seems Celtic only activity is driving down the price of what we had last season and the usual 'monitoring' but not acting. Usual lazy recruitment.

    Meanwhile, across the city they seem to be working really hard to bring players in early.
    Going to bet our net spend isn't much different to them and we are panicking (again) come August.
     
  13. Sgt Neppers*

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    Aye. It works. We win trophies. Make profit. That's enough. Fair points.

    But we can do more. Be better. Make more money. Be more respected, have the continued success. Keep progressing.

    Can bet your bottom dollar Real Madrid can think we could have done better this season. They strive for more.

    So should we. Our European record the past 20 years is absolutely atrocious. We're lagging behind FC Copenhagen now.

    So clearly more to be done.
     
  14. saltire78

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    We've overlooked plenty of players who could have been the core of our team at about £6-9M players, after being properly coached. We've let plenty of our own youths go who would have been £4-6M with similar training and a little risk in their development. These guys could have have allowed us to bring in single very high value transfers around them, or a few in the £6-10M purchase price area. They'd have been less likely to jump immediately and to accept squad status. That could've helped us develop as a complete outfit.

    Instead we spend millions at a time on repeated purchases of other people's projects or teams unwanted players on loan
     
  15. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    We were in for a DoF of football when the Eddie Howe rumours were in place the rumour at the time was the hold up in Howe signing was due to him wanting to pick his own DoF that then fell through and we appointed Ange it then took us 18 months to appoint a DoF/Head of recruitment whatever you want to call it. The man we appointed just by sheer coincidence happened to be our ex Cheif Exec and current chairman's son. That went * up and we're back to square one relying on a manager with a sketchy at best history in the transfer market to pull some irons out the fire
     
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  16. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Aye, its a joke...

    Can't imagine any elite minded club sacking there Head of Recruitment at the beginning of March and still not replacing them come June..
     
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    Bcoz the fat * running the club is a control freak and doesn't want to deligate any power unless it's to his stooge or his son
     
  18. Ryanm1984

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    We'll appoint someone in September
     
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  19. Sgt Neppers*

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    :giggle1:

    There are a few coincidences in there. Trying not to go down that rabbit hole though.
     
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  20. Ryanm1984

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    The footballing side of the club is a more of an inconvenience to those that run the club.
    All they want is bonuses year on year. It kills them having to spend money on the footballing side.

    "Gordon Strachan leaves Celtic a better club on and off the balance sheet"

    That's their priority. Always has been.