'Honest' mistakes 24/25

One thing which I haven't seen mentioned by pundits or anyone on here is the fact that their penalty should never have been awarded for a different reason. If you go back to the play before the penalty. The move starts from a Diomande free kick. He takes an illegal free kick. Referee let's him put the pull down, kick it a yard in front of him and then kick it again out wide to a team mate. Making everything else that happens after irrelevant if VAR had done its job properly and checked that phase of play. If I can find a video of it I'll share it on here but VAR obviously not checked the move and no "expert" pundits have noticed it either. Embarrassing.

 

They didn’t even show 3 seconds before it to see Johnston making the tackle, just half off it, never mind looking further back than that.


You’re right though mate, that was similar to the start of the phase like the disallowed goal and the foul. Phases of play is ambiguous as *, and don’t know how to quantify it.

 

2 bookings by the letter of law btw, he has the corner flag which is a booking and he’s off the pitch in the crowd which is a booking.


Honestly bookings I think are bullshit but ones I think we would be penalised for, and would be certain they wony

 

Managed to record off my recording of the highlights and upload it -

https://files.fm/u/xd7w6p852y

As you can see, illegal free kick starts their attacking phase of play leading to the penalty award. VAR should have checked it.

 

Tell you what mate, I thought it was just ball rolling, it’s him hitting it twice and for me that’s the start of that phase of attack. It doesn’t come back out to restart a new one or out of the control of Rangers attack at any point to start a new phase?

Ignoring that it * should have been because I’ll not get over AJ’s attempt at a * clearance man.

 

Yep its 100% him hitting it twice starting that phase so VAR should be checking that. Especially when pulling the ref up for a clear and obvious error. The fact that they sent the ref to the monitor was bad enough but to not even carry out a thorough check of the phase is just pathetic.

 

The thing about VAR agreed pretty much everywhere, every league and fanbase, every club that’s being absolutely stonewalled outwith a couple high profile cases willingly shared (down south a Liverpool game they * it up completely being the biggest example I can think of) - every single * that takes an interest in football except the rulemakers wants to see the process and what they’re checking and open up the lines of communication on it.

It needs to happen, there’s an example in this same game a goal disallowed due to something as far back as that free kick was, similar style, and that was universally agreed the right call and VAR working properly. So what happened here, where did they check to for that phase or play and if it was looked back to where we think the phase of attack starts, with this free kick, and it was looked at, then why wasn’t it noticed?

If we could see the process and what’s happening, it clears up so * much, they share with the broadcaster what’s happening in the VAR room. They can hear or else they could when we introduced it at first, Andy Walker made that clear (and was also apparently making * up but we wouldn’t know that unless others that heard the communication didn’t contradict him) - if it’s shared and is open communication, it clears up so much *.

And that is also what I think is why refs should be mic’d up. Refs are that much against it, and don’t want it that much, it’s suspicious. Have you ever seen the clips of the Aussie ref doing it just before retiring? It was eye opening and cleared up pretty much every contentious moment when players went up to him to argue. Our refs up here don’t even think they should have the option of talking about a decision or two after a game, not even directly after even a couple days later. They’re arrogant *, and anything they need to explain or have people scrutinise them they take it as an ultimate insult.

 

At Least one person agrees with me. Well said my friend.enough of us getting shafted every season HH

 

Think being mic'ed up should be the very obvious step. I actually think even way before VaR the refs themselves should have been volunteering or happy to be mic'ed up because of our situation in Scotland. They don't get forced to declare their club as you can see there is a higher chance of huns or tims so they should all be mic'ed like in rugby.

 

I said it before and will say it again the fact we can predict all the events of tynecastle and ibrox is ridiculous and isn't paranoia it's material facts and it's been the same guy involved Beaton.

 

The fact nothing has still been done means it will be allowed to continue.

The soft pens, the constant free kicks will continue while we can’t get a penalty unless it’s a stonewaller.

Watching the Real Madrid games last night Bellingham goes done after a hand on the shoulder. Soft as *, a slight claim then he just gets up and gets on with it no one mentions it again. However if that’s Rangers you know it’s a penalty, whereas it isn’t anywhere else in world football. They would make a song and dance about it, and once VAR got involved they give it.

 

They would be nowhere near us with honest officiating. The fact they are challenging for the title tells its own story.

 

I said before VAR came in, we would use it to their advantage.

Soft as * decisions will go in their favour as being "letter of the law" and then likewise for us, we would be waved off as being "contact sport, not every touch is a foul"

Low and behold, literally what's happening.

Just look at that game at the weekend, 10 fouls to our 23 or something? Mental.

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At least fenerbache have some fight to field an u19 team in the cup then walk off the pitch after a minute . They may not get to another league but they are using different tactics to embarrass the turkish fa.what celtic was and is now is sad to see.wheres the celts for change passion here.serious question.how long do we take the cheating for. Ffs tavernier is top scoring defender ever.thats how many * penalties theyve had. Wake up celtic fans or do you secretly like the hun sfa spfl shafting us every game now. Jesus h christ enough.fergus or brother walfrid would never accept this corruption.the fact walsh in var never showed beaton the angle were al johnston clearly got the ball then silva dives is ludicrous. Beatons on pitch call was correct but hun var were having none of it.ffs guys enoughs enough surely. Im mad but its a south armagh trait im afraid.* me fans travelling hundreds of miles to away games to see us get cheated or get home and see the latest hun honest mistake. Come on .really guys. How much more do we take.try boycotting scottish cup or send no away fans to any away grounds.field u19 in a cup.anythibg to keep this cheating in the public eye please.watch dundee get shafted tonight too. COYBIG HH

 

My dad mentioned that when rhenFK was taken

 

Never even clocked that myself.

What happened to the "we needed to check the build up play" nonsense?

That's madness that is.

Absolutely madness.

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I think this would help but not sure it totally sorts the issue of unconscious bias.

You show that scenario of Silva going over if you are rangers leaning, your team are struggling badly and look beat, it’s a route back in. You show that to a Celtic leaning official (no laughing) they stand by their decision not enough in that for him to go down there.

The question no one seems to be asking when debating this, is does the contact from Johnston’s boot impede Silva from running onto the ball or cause his legs to collapse in the manner they do, you can tell by how he falls they don’t. He dives as if he is going into a pool if Johnston’s contact on the knee had caused him to go down his body would have twisted or he would have fell sideways because he had been knocked off balance. Twice this season we have seen challenges in the box where someone had caught our player and both been told not enough in that, Haksabanovic vs Killie in the league cup and Kyogo vs Livingston.

 

And who was the officals in both those killie and Livingston games

Alan muir and Don Robertson

 

It's beyond a joke at this point. The sheer amount of favourable decisions they get week in week out is a shambles. Simple rules of football not being followed.

 

Wow * wow. No wonder the SFA refused to give the information to the BBC and claimed "we only have to give the lines if it isn't clear and obvious" only 1 club seems to benefit!!!!

https://www.afc.co.uk/2024/04/10/club-statement-video-assistant-referees/