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Gustaf Lagerbielke

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Peter T. Lawwell Esq, Aug 16, 2023.

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  1. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    There's been a few players we've punted fairly quickly, recently. Abildgaard, Jenz, Haksabanovic. There does appear to be an issue with how we're scouting players but without more information it's difficult to say what that is.
     
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    This is a brilliant point. There are a lot of things you can't be certain of when you sign a player: temperament, mentality, attitude, how well you fit into a new dressing room, how you will settle in Scotland, etc; but if the issue is that Rodgers needs someone with more pace, the recruitment team have screwed up badly, because any scout can tell you whether a player has that.
     
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    i think they were all slightly different with two of them being loans, one who didn’t get a sniff and one who thought he should be playing more. Just think Haksa isn’t a Rodgers type winger at all.

    I don’t know how a scout could look at Abilgaard though and say he’s a fit as an Ange number 6. Couldn’t be further away.

    I personally think our dealings have been a disaster since Ange’s first January window. You call tell most of them are a mile off it before they have even kicked a ball for us.
     
  4. T.Rogne25

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    Especially because I’ve always heard Rodgers referencing being quick as important in his centre halves. Ange’s teams it wasn’t as important as being aggressive and making first contact which Starfelt was brilliant at. Going by that you are probably looking at Ange centre halves in a Rodgers team.
     
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    Plus Starfelt was really quick. A part of me wonders if we got our CBs this summer with a view to them partnering Starfelt and with the intention of cashing in on CCV. I don't have much evidence for this, but someone like Nawrocki makes sense to me alongside Starfelt and rather less sense alongside Scales.

    Total speculation but I do wonder.
     
  6. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nobody was buying CCV, he was injured and we knew that weeks before he stopped playing last season. Also confident they knew Starfelt would leave when Jacynta left.
     
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    Pace is arguably more valuable for defenders in Ange's team than it is for Rodgers due to Ange's mental high line.

    Starfelt was fast as * and perfect for Ange's system, just as VDV is rapid and perfect for Spurs'. Romero and CCV aren't slouches either.
     
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    If I remember correctly, we pulled the trigger on Lagerbielke only once Starfelt was confirmed as gone. In other words, if Starfelt had stayed, Lagerbielke might not have been signed.

    Although I agree with the principle of your point. I think Nawrocki in particular was signed quite sharply so that if an offer materialised for CCV he could be moved on.
     
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    Strafelts agent is also Lagerbielkes agent, reports at the time were the agent recommended Lagerbielke to us.

    Most likely scenario is we told the agent we wouldn't let Starfelt leave until a replacement was found. Agent then said I have someone you can sign and our recruitment team being completely * useless thought, "aye that will do and will save us having to do any work".
     
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    I didn't realise that. That is pretty worrying to be honest.

    I remember thinking previously that we relied on agents to do our scouting. I feel like this is an indicator that's the case.

    Not necessarily a problem to use that network of course, but a big problem if we're overdependent on it and not being proactive.
     
  11. buchanbhoy

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    Hopefully he can impress someone as he is dead money here, the club has spent a lot of money on him so if they can recoup the cash then we can invest in a player that does have a future here.
     
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  12. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    Nawrocki signed July 26.
    Nawrocki makes his debut opening day.
    Starfelt left Aug 10.
    CCV injured Aug 13.
    Laberbielke signed Aug 17.
    Welsh injury at training Aug 18.
    Lagerbielke debut Aug 20.
    Nawrocki injury suspected Aug 21
    Nawrocki & CCV confirmed out at least 8 weeks Aug 24
    Phillips signed on loan Aug 31.

    Newrocki was signed at Starfelt's replacement prior to his departure. The fact that Nawrocki started the first couple of games with Starfelt on the bench is evident enough of that.

    Lagerbielke was coming from a hugely successful season in his native Sweden and since joining Celtic has made his full International debut (played twice now for Sweden) indicates how highly rated he was prior to his signing for Celtic in his own right and not merely as a replacement to allow for Starfelt's departure. Whether the 2 of them share the same agent or not would seem to be beside the point really.
     
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    https://m.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie...-per-lagerbielke-occhio-pero-al-genoa-1920840
    Contacts continue between Lecce and Celtic Glasgow for Gustaf Lagerbielke , a central defender targeted in the last days of Pantaleo Corvino to strengthen Roberto D'Aversa's defensive line. Yesterday, the indiscretion emerged according to which the Salento team had asked for the player on loan, even though president Sticchi Damiani had spoken of the desire not to take players on an extemporaneous basis.


    The words of the patron saint of Salento.
    These are the words pronounced by Sticchi Damiani yesterday on the sidelines of the Lega Serie A meeting on the transfer market: "Not so much making impromptu operations, but following our logic, with young and owned players. Except for particular things so no loans, we are a little ' against. We have 90% of the players owned."

    Watch out for Genoa.
    According to what was gathered by the TMW editorial team, Lagerbielke is also in the sights of Genoa, with the Grifone wanting the Swedish central defender as the name for the post-Radu Dragusin, who is increasingly closer to Tottenham. The next few hours will be decisive, in one sense or another, with the two Italian clubs having further contacts both with Celtic and with the player's entourage. For this last thing, the Giallorossi would have a preferential channel, given that the agents of the Swedish international are the same as Pontus Almqvist.
     
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    Genoa would be a cracking move for him.
     
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    And how do you explain the fact Starfelt's agent was the one who recommend such a "highly rated" player to us?

    If our recruitment team were doing their job we wouldn't need * agents recommending players to us.

    And as it turns out he is getting punted 6 months later bcoz absolutely no * had bothered their * to scout him and realise he doesn't fit into our style of play.

    Yet another * * show from a * named lawwell
     
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    The Scandinavian countries is a region we have routinely looked to a lot over the past 20-25 years, especially when it comes to defenders. Whether they've come direct from there or via clubs elsewhere, the fact that Riseth, Rieper, Mjallby, Majstorovic, Rogne, Lustig, Sviatchencko, Ajer & Starfelt etc all come from that part of Europe is hardly been purely by co-incidence. In fact, probably more Scandinavian defenders have worn the Hoops over the past 25 years than there have probably been Scots - mqybe not, but it wouldn't be far off the mark.

    So it's hardly a surprise when we have looked to that part of the world and identified a young guy in Lagerbielke who is making a name for himself in the game in Sweden and considering the signing strategy Celtic has been prominant is pursuing, to sign young players to further develop before moving them on, it's hardly a shock that Lagerbielke was identified as someone with that sort of potential also.
     
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    He wasnt identified tho. He was recommended by his agent
     
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    Call me Einstein if you must, but I see a flaw in there somewhere.
     
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    Lagerbiielke was signed on a 5 year deal. That is a long time to invest in without having done any homework, or purely on the say-so of an agent, who has a vested interest in seeing transfers go through. Oh, and by the way, they are not represented by the same people.

    Starfelt is represented by BHM Sports Agency.
    Lagerbielke is represented by A.M.A. Sports Agency AB.

    There is no crossover in personnel between those two firms. The only Celtic link to either of those agencies is that BHM also are the representatives of Giakoumakis.
     
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    And he's being sold 5 months and 8 appearances later bcoz he doesn't fit the style of play.

    You can defend the recruitment all you want. Personally I'd sack every * 1 of them
     
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