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Yang Hyun Jun

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Idioteque, Jul 14, 2023.

Discuss Yang Hyun Jun in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Wonder if he'll get much game time in the Asian Cup.
     
  2. Damnati

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    He was unlucky not to get an assist for Bernardo. I think he can come good.
     
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  3. Dan Breen

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    Looks way more comfortable/dangerous on the left side.
     
  4. hiphopaddict

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    He's a decent enough winger. Problem is he definitely looks like a player who will take ages to adjust and come good. Its the risk you take when bringing a player in from the Far East.

    If you remember when Hatate arrived. A goal on his debut against the wee huns at swinecastle and then 2 goals against the big huns at Celtic Park. Thats how you announce your arrival. Kyogo was the same.....hit the ground running....banging them in straight away. Even Maeda scored on his debut against Hibs.

    Yang and Iwata are good players....there is no doubt....but unless we are prepared to wait maybe 2 seasons for them to fully adjust and settle down then they will probably be let go at earliest opportunity.

    The other two Kwon and Kobayashi are obviously just not going to step up to the mark ever. It was the same with Ideguchi. Its the chance you take with bringing these players in
     
  5. MynameisEarl

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    I think the impact sub role is perfect for him just now both in terms of confidence and development … Being chucked in to CL games from the get go was just wishful thinking.

    Think he’ll kick on a lot more now the pressures off him!
     
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  6. T.Rogne25

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    He’s a tough one to judge so far, bags of ability when running with the ball but a lot to improve upon.

    Has looked like a world beater at times (Aberdeen, St Mirren, home cameo) and looked way off it also (St J).

    definitely needs games which will be hard to come by here but it’s not going to do any good unless he goes to a physical league imo.

    Biggest thing he has to work on imo and is a trigger for me personally is he never gets in at the back post when the ball comes in from the other side. It’s a must for a wide player these days and especially a Celtic winger.
     
  7. Dan Breen

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    Agree, and now no need to chuck him straight in, especially with Abada back.
     
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    He’s pish, if we sign a half decent winger in January well probably never see him again
     
  9. Taxman Lights of Lisbon Gold Member

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    Really, really raw.

    Hard to say too much right now, has the acceleration, pace and desire to drive to the byline to cross - I like that part of his game. He undoubtedly has so much more rounding out to do if he is to ever be a regular starter at Celtic, mind.

    When teams are tired late on in games, he's an option to bring on and really go at them.

    Will reserve judgement for now.
     
  10. CookieMonster Geez yer cookies Gold Member

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    You are comparing 3 players who had a lot of experience in a good league before coming here to a youngster with little game experience playing in a lesser league.

    Yang has qualities but will take time no doubt about it, doesn’t when he can’t get a run of games even with wingers injured.

    Not sure what Iwata you have been watching but when he got his run in the team before injury there it was best and most balanced our midfield looked. He definitely has a future here.
     
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  11. Liam Scales

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    He has skill and strength as well, and interestingly for a young inexperienced winger defensive side of the game he’s been really good at. Stat wise defensive side of the position he’s up there with Maeda and soundly beats anyone outwith Oh uptop for aerial duels.

    He has a lot of things there, but his final product so far has been shown to be very poor but he’s shown some flashes that makes me think it’s not that the ability isn’t there, it’s the decision making.

    We’ve seen him more than I think we had planned upon due to injuries, and that’s made it difficult without having that bedding in time, more relied upon then taken out the firing line when he was clearly spiralling under the pressure.

    I think we’ll see him turn it round though, he has enough to his game to be able to get coached into it clicking for him.
     
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    This bit gets conveniently overlooked by some. He's inconsistent and lacks end product for sure but his work rate for a winger is good. Helps out the full backs. Develop the former and he'll be a player.
     
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    Not even sure it can be labelled as overlooked (might be semantics this) but people I’ve talked to that haven’t noticed that side of his game, are just plain ignorant of it, like totally not realised its there. Overlooked feels like an intentional thing.


    It’s the work off the ball, physically and defensively along with the times he’s shown to be direct, skilfull and unpredictable that makes me think he can turn into a properly good player. There’s been times he’s shown he has a good technique crossing - but he’s not looked up to see whos there to cross to. Or like his wee reverse pass to O’Riley against Aberdeen. He has shown ability to have end product but also a complete lack of decision making, and that can be taught.

    *, that was what was aimed at Frimpong majorly- and that one I said the same, not ability, decision making. You can see how good coaching has turned him into a machine albeit not at us, I think good coaching can channel Yangs ability into end product and Rodgers is very, very good at that side of management


    Another thing that makes me think he has what it takes, and it’s purely the mental side of the game this, he never ever hides. Even when he’s had a shocker and has heard the crowd on his back, he never goes into a shell and doesn’t want to show for the ball to try and do something. That’s something we need majorly, there’s been good players that we’ve seen hide instead and they ones never make it
     
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  14. Dan Breen

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    Has bags of potential, his flaws are easily ironed out with good coaches over time. That stinker he had-think it was against diets-was mainly due to him playing on the right and every * being well off it. He was hooked at HT.
    Just have a positive feeling about him right now, especially if he has a decent Asian cup, would do his confidence the world of good. I do like his attitude and workrate also.
    He is way better than Palma at closing down opponents when out of possession and also a better tackler-Palma is useless at tackling, gives away cheap fouls.
     
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    His best game for us was also on the right, against Aberdeen. There’s been no rhyme or reason to his good games or not, been same left or right, starting or coming on. Sometimes erratic, sometimes brilliant, the consistency that he’s shown is the defensive side to his game.

    But it boils down to his decision making, and it’s that poor and rushed, his final products non-existent.
     
  16. Taxman Lights of Lisbon Gold Member

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    Have to admit I haven't seen any particular great defensive showings from him, could be a slip of the memory though.

    From the stats I can see (domestically only) he's had the same amount of aerial duels as Maeda (1.6) and 0.1 more than Palma (1.5) and all three have won the same amount of aerial duels (0.6). In terms of tackles - both Maeda and Palma average more per game (1.2) compared to Yang's (0.8). Both Maeda and Palma rank ahead in interceptions too (0.4 & 0.2) whilst Yang has made no interceptions (domestically) this season.

    All them stats don't say a huge amount anyway, but I've just not see anything sequence of defensive play that have stood out hugely.

    Think his whole game needs rounding out, like I said. Definitely has the physical qualities to his game but very green still.

    Work rate is good, but that alone doesn't mean a lot if the output isn't utilised effectively.
     
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  17. Damnati

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    I think in his last appearance it definitely seemed like he had been told to focus on hitting the byline more regularly rather than cutting inside.

    We've seen too much of him this early on. I think by the time next season comes around we'll see a more effective player. He could be the next Scales type improvement, he has all the tools.
     
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    I seem to recall, one of his first appearances for us was coming on as sub, away to Aberdeen, on the left and he done really well???
     
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    Aye, he done really well to set up MOR for a goal I’m sure.
     
  20. Liam Scales

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    … maybe just play him against Aberdeen is the way forward? :56:

    He’s shown flashes on either wing, and shown the same weaknesses either wing. Don’t think it’s a case of being played on the right and he’s not comfortable there and is a left winger, seems fine either side when he’s on his game.