Stick or Twist ?

… and you’d trust him to spend any money wisely?

I wouldn’t give him a penny.

Did they not ignore us for months and months before finally pressing the button?!?

I always get the impression that the plc don’t give a monkeys what the supporters think.

 

Sack the cvnt
Don't give him a copper coin

Sack the lawwells too!

 

Different scenario to the covid season. Lennon would never have lasted as long as he did with fans in the ground.

Still don't think we are anywhere near that stage but no way it would go as long with supporters in the ground. Can't put fences up around the stadium when 55,000 have paid money to get in

 

I don't think he will be sacked but I also don't see any redeemable features in his 'style' so far

 

Twist, the board need to be * chased if we ever want to move forward as a football club in the long term but he should be getting more from this squad of players the performances all season have been * and now the results are as well he's a manager on a downward slope his style of footballs been found out and now bang average spfl managers are taking points off us regularly.

If he stays I just see it getting worse us losing the league and him going in the summer anyway so may as well change it now and see if a new guy could at least salvage a title win.

 

If we sack him we would probably bring back Lennon. We are run like a * pub team.

 

Crack open the biscuit tin and go all in for that Kjetil Knutsen. * it, it'll be a laugh.

 

Kjetil Knutsen

 

Knutsen isn’t leaving Bodo.

 

So in order for him to be successful we need to replace the board, or the recruitment team, or spend 30m on replacing half the 1st team, or all of the above.

Ludicrous. I've even seen someone suggest he'll turn this around and convincingly win the league but needs 2 windows to do so. Mental.

 

There’s a lot of this idea floating about, it’s like the boards gaslit us into being scared of wasting any money at all that we may as well no even try.

If he’s the man they’ve went for, and is in charge of the team, then you back him. If you don’t want to back him, then get someone else. Don’t cut him off from underneath him, undermine him and make the job ten times harder for someone you have no faith in.

And scrap the scouting and recruitment while you’re at it in that case

 

To win the league? Not really I’d be confident in him being able to do with Abada, Hatate, Iwata back and fit. CCV staying fit.

I’d be a lot more confident with a new left back, a dependable experienced striker that can step in like a la GG under Ange.

And I’d be absolutely * sure if we add a keeper that can turn draws to wins and losses to draws.

If he’s not backed though, we have much deeper issues to attend to. Because for me it’d be absolute beyond proof that the boards asleep at the wheel.

There’s just enough excuses plausible in the summer that while not excusing it, can see how it didn’t go our way. If after 4 months preparation from the window shutting we don’t, then there is no excuses left, and its not fit for purpose.

we have a proven succesful manager on a long contract, we have the money, we have the prospect of £60m for a league win with new CL format…

There is no excuses if we fail at recruitment

 

It’s actually criminal how much we’ve * this up. A nine point lead, the huns sack a manager and somehow we’ve put them back in the driver’s seat. Embarrassing.

 

Last I read he said he didn't want to leave mid-season. Their season has just finished (they won the league again).

 

Its a hard one, this board is completely incompetent but we struck gold with Ange. If we are to bin Rodgers we would need to be really lucky to land on a guy who is able to work with hands tied behind his back.

 

Twist - we’re not playing well at all and his tactics and subs are baffling.

72 m in the bank with 40+m up for grabs due to the new Champions league format. Our board should be finding a new manager and spending serious money in January.

 

I don't think sacking him changes anything but at the same time, the toxic atmosphere around the club is like the COVID season but it will only get worse so I think he needs to go. They might have put barriers up and strip the signs and posters the fans put on every * day but they * will have to face the music every second week this time, 60,000 fans turning on them.

They can't hide this time and they're seeing the real time toxic atmosphere spill out amongst fans already, in the stadium. They can't ignore that for long. They do need to make the change but the club needs a complete * change from Top to Bottom. We need someone to come in and have a network of attainable players that will win us the league for affordable prices, like Ange did. We also need to bin a lot of the scouts and the Head of Recruitment.

There will be no changes within the boardroom, we all know that. It's the reality of where we are unfortunately. I will almost guarantee you that the orcs will spend as much, if not more than us in January. They know they're now in the driving seat to win £60m in CL money next year. If that happens, this club will go into * shutdown mode. There is no coming back from that.

 

It's fairly obvious that the club run on a model where the manager identifies a few key target of their own and the scouting team brings in a load of projects for the manager to develop. Overall squad size, contract management, homegrown player etc is more the purview of the director of football or in our case Lawell.

If we take Rodgers first stint and Anges tenure then deduce what players came in on the managers recommendation and who came in as part of the clubs overall strategy I would say that the problem with the clubs recruitment isn't down to the manager.

We could have easily had 2x 8m and 1x 6m players in the door this season but the manager will be told, we cannot accommodate another high earner in the wage structure, we already have James McCarthy.

The simple question is do you think that McCarthy was an Ange signing and also do you think that Scott Sinclair, undoubtedly a Rodgers signing, was a failure.

I'm certainly not accusing you of having a champ man attitude to club management but at the same time modern clubs run with fairly similar frameworks but with broad attitude and responsibilities to it. And I would say that our recruitment problems over the last 20 years are consistent and not down to any manager.

 

Twist and its a new gaffer wi Kennedy, Strachan, Lawell Jnr, Nicholson, Lawell snr, The Desmonds and the board still in place.

Needs to he a systematic gutting of the internal powers and football set and ethos for us to change/progress.

But Rodgers needs to change up or he'll be done in January. Switch the tactics, formation style to suit what you have and the opponent.

No just cause its your way. Your way isn't working.