Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I think Rodgers style of play is having better quality attacking players than the other team. Im not sure he has ever known how to organise a defence.

 

Brendan Rodgers record v Killie...

P13 W7 D2 L4

• That is a 53.8% win record against Killie.
• Has now lost on 4 of his past 5 visits to Rugby Park.
  
• He won his first 4 games against Killie but has won just 3 of the past 9 games since.

 

He doesn't look at ease. His confidence isn't there.

I hope he's hammering the board to get players in during the January transfer window. He better not * this up.

 

It's a masterstroke from Brendan. He's already thinking about next year's European campaign. He knows he can't do anything in Europe without backing and he knows he won't be backed unless the board think the league is at risk.
It's genius.

 

He's still struggling to get the players to adjust from Angeball, notably Kyogo and the fullbacks..

Couple that with an unacceptable summer window and bad luck with injuries, it's been a slog..

If backed properly in January and with Hatate, Maeda and Abada returning, we'll have enough..

We are in a title race though and there isn't much room for error..

 

This is another big issue. I always feel a new manager coming in should be ripping everything up and starting from scratch, but I felt this time BR had the quality to transition and make subtle changes. It definitely hasn't worked.

 

Aye, I thought he may have moved away from the 4-3-3 to put his stamp on the side, but ended up playing a kind of hybrid of his football and Ange's.. I guess its difficult to rip up a treble winning blueprint..
I'm hoping in January we add 3/4 bits of real quality, which gives him the confidence to do what needs to be done.

 

I take your point mate and when it came the the champions league games I made similar arguments almost giving Rodgers a pass as we fared well enough considering a glaring lack of quality for that level.

Domestically though he has no excuse. The performances haven't been good enough and when you scrape wins it's always a positive but there's only so long you can go riding your luck like that before or collapses like today. He is responsible for how our players play and those players are still better than what they showed today.

 

His return has been nothing less than underwhelming.

Rodgers played to the tune of the board all through the summer window, consistently backing their business model of buying projects for low fees and selling on for big profits. He must have knew that policy wouldn’t help him to take us to the next level in Europe but he went along with it anyway.

Now he’s using the recruitment in the summer and the lack of quality in the squad as the reason for the performances and results we are seeing.

The recruitment was terrible, there is no getting away from it but this is still largely a treble winning squad. Injuries have hampered us too but we should still have more than enough to deliver domestically and do it with some style.

Yet the football I am witnessing is absolutely sickening to watch. I can’t see what style of play he’s trying to implement. It’s either honking or he isn’t getting his message across well enough.

Huns away
Hearts away
Aberdeen home
Hibs home

That’s the only games that spring to mind when I think about the good performances we’ve put in this season. 4 out of 17 isn’t good enough.

If it wasn’t for the Huns being even worse than us, Rodgers would be under pressure right now.

Also some of his decision making around personnel is dumbfounding. Picking the likes of Phillips over Nawrocki and Lagerbielke or persisting with MJ and Forrest when Tilio has been fit for weeks. He’s also mismanaged Kyogo big time too.

 

Aye and hopefully that quality has an abundance of physicality to match it.

 

Absolutely spot on.

 

Has to do something different. Was thinking similar to this myself.

 

When is it appropriate then? When it's too late, à la Lennon and Mowbray?

We are top but, save for 3 or 4 games, performances have been poor with precious few signs of improvement, if anything yhere is a steady decline. Tactics are either one dimensional or just wrong. Key players from last year are regressing, some at an alarming rate. The environment/situation is getting toxic, continually stating publicly that there is not enough quality in the side is not good for dressing room morale.

All of that is on brendan rodgers. To date he has never turned around a side in decline and , sadly, thats what we are right now. He has taken a side that, only six months ago convincingly won a treble, playing exciting, attractive football and turned it into this.

His record in the transfer market is appalling, throughout his career. He has never rebuilt a side and it would appear if we are to have any form of improvement under him then that is what he is going to have to do.

I have zero confidence in his abilities, or lack thereof, to stop the rot that has set in or recruit the proper replacements and im pretty sure I'm far from the only one who thinks this.

 

It's because he's stubborn as *. It takes him time to tweak things compared to his original plan. Ange doesn't compromise on anything, but he can at least precisely identify the player that would fit his plan. Rodgers can't, and is only mildly less rigid than Ange. If Iwata didn't have that assist against StJ, I'm not sure if he'd have started the last 2 games.

I'm not sure what would it take for Rodgers to order Kyogo to go back to being a striker like he was last season. Someone please find out Rodgers' e-mail address. I'm desperate.

 

He's come into this job off the back of a relegation. You can see exactly why he was relegated.

 

Rodgers style isnt as quick, direct or intense than Anges and he has also lost the pace and quality of Jota from last season.

Our summer window was undeniably poor, but its been compounded by Rodgers tactics and team selections.

 

Spot on.

It's also not clear what our actual tactics are. Ange's had the press, work rate, and maximizing the time the ball was in play. The whole squad understood that and showed that in how they played, pretty much from his first few games.

This season it's not clear at all what Rodgers has set us up to do, particularly in midfield. Even at throwins look like there's no communication or plan for them. There are plenty of obvious areas for Rodgers to improve on.

Just not sure how interested he actually is.

 

I really think people are blinkered with the narrative of

Ah Brendan walked out on us before, he’s a rat, get him out etc


If you said to me during last season.

Ang will leave ! So will Jota, Starfelt, Mooy, GG

A New manager will not be recruited until really late in the summer, with the signings already planned by the old manager

Then in the season Hatate, Maeda, Abada, CCV will miss because of injuries


And we will be top of the league by 5 points in December!! I’d say My * I’ll take that 100%


Let’s not forget Brendan won everything last time he was here.

He came in very late in the summer and nobody could have predicted the very late crazy Saudi bud for Jota or Starfelt getting * drunk and wanting to leave.

January we will strengthen. We will win the league. Let’s get behind Brendan

 

Kyogos qualities have been nullified because our build up play is so slow.
Id argue the same point for Maeda and i feel that Abada will find it the same when he comes back.

These players need to ball played ahead of them into space. We struggle to get in behind defences now because there is no pace and urgency in our play and our final ball is continually letting us down. We are just too slow at getting the ball forward and wide.

Palma, Forrest and Yang all want to come inside. Scott sinclair was the same but he had a lot of quality off his right foot.
Johnstone has at least offered that outside threat to stretch the defence and beat/commit a man but unfortunately his final ball is found wanting.

With Ange we played with pace, intensity and purpose.