Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

Think it was when they signed upto the Armed Forces Covenant not sure the exact day though.

 

As long as I am alive I will boo anything and everything to do with the British militarism at parkhead. I see the British PR machine is slowly seeping into the working class mindset and are now falling for it all. The British establishment are * scum! Nothing more, nothing less and this is part of glorifying them! No blood stained poppy or minutes silence should be anywhere near our football club!

Some people have very short memories I see I must add..

 

i agree, but turning our backs sends a far better message. I really like that idea. We need a solution to this, and going by how the club has handled the GB stuff recently i dont think they will be of much help to the support base with this one either.

 

People have the right to boo if they want.

 

Oops..... wrong thread, sorry.

 

The UK is a bit like Jose Mourinho: it used to be a major power, but it's been on the B list of world powers since Suez and arguably the C list since Brexit and it's scummy past behaviour is now widely acknowledged. It's a sad little country that built a couple of aircraft carriers but couldn't afford to build the necessary support vessels, because it still wants to play with the big boys like the US and China and won't accept that it can't. A country that can't even build a modern rail link, which even Spain can manage. Where life expectancy and children's heights are both falling due to poverty (it started a few years before Covid).

If you have to hate something, hate something relevant. Also, the people here aren't bad people.

I even find our pathetic failure to be a modern imperial power something to be proud of: France, Russia and Iran, for example, are still very much at it, Turkey/Turkiye is back in the game and we all know about the two superpowers, i.e. the US and China. I know the UK establishment has these imperial delusions just like the Russians and the Turks and will no doubt keep trying; but so far, they aren't very good at it. Touch wood, that continues.

 

Surely the boos were aimed at the board for daring to mix football and politics

 

Some people choose to see wearing the poppy as nothing more than paying respect to fallen soldiers. Most of whom are usually from working class roots, irregardless of their nationality - many Irish fought and died in both world wars, for example, and they weren’t pro British army/establishment etc. (most anyway)

Personally, I don’t view the poppy as a political statement or being pro British. I see people like Roy Keane wearing it on tv, and I just view it as paying respect. And I think that’s how most uk citizens view it too, only a small minority view it as political in nature. I wouldn’t go out of my way to wear one, but if I was in the uk and someone handed it to me I’d probably wear it for a day especially if it meant giving some money to charity etc. I wouldn’t be against it.

But everyone is entitled to not wear it if they wish. I don’t think anyone should be criticised for wearing/not wearing it either way. People making very angry statements about a poppy, are really just showing up how small minded and belligerent they are as a person. It’s a much bigger statement about your own character, than any little flower could achieve!

 

I think it's weird how, over the last wee while, the poppy issue has became a type of Unionist v Republican or protestant v Catholic or Celtic v hun type of thing. Its also telling that some of the huns I know never really bothered about rememberence Sunday or wearing poppies etc but are right into it now

 

For me if you buy a poppy you're essentially supporting a charity that is set up solely to support veterans. Veterans of Wars in Ireland, Falklands and an illegal War in the Iraq. There are no veterans left from WW1 and few from WW2. Its become a political symbol now with all sorts of people vilified for not wearing one, poppy fascism..

I do agree with 2 minutes silence on Armistice Day, it's right to remember those who fell, but for me that's where it should end.

 

* off ya Tory *


Celtic superfan Sir Rod Stewart has blasted supporters who disrupted the minute’s silence at Parkhead on Remembrance Sunday.

And the singer told the Record he wouldn’t be able to explain the behaviour to his sons.



just before kick-off against Aberdeen – a game won 6-0 by the league title holders – both sets of players and the majority of fans paid their respects to the sacrifices made by the Armed Forces.


In an exclusive interview with the Record, the veteran rocker said: “I’m back in the States to work in Vegas and I got up at 6am on Sunday to watch the team I love.




I switched on the telly only to be greeted with boos and jeers around the stadium during the otherwise impeccably observed silence for Armistice Day. I was absolutely disgusted.”

 

Imagine Rod the frauds disgust when he finds out the club he loves never actually mentioned the silence was for armistice day

 

If Rod doesn't get it by now, i don't think he ever will.

* off Rod ya Tory *.

 

“He wouldn’t be able to explain the behaviour to his sons.”

That says more about him to be honest.

 

No, nothing to do with small minded belligerent person. Some of my earliest memories of are of British soldiers pointing a gun in my face along with murdering people of my community. Kicking doors in and wrecking all around them! Not to forget A young lad of 15 named Danny Barrett, sitting on his garden wall talking to his father. A single shot was fired and murdered the poor kid. While I didn't know him personally because I was abit younger than him, I lived just a few doors away from him in flax street Ardoyne! Who do you think did this! British scum who it was! This wasnt an icolated case either, this was common in the north and especially around Belfast. Not to forget the incident in Ballymurphy, and Derry as has been mentioned in here before where the * picked our people out like they where hunting. IMO anyone wearing a poppy is * on the graves if all these people who where slained down by them..

What about Aidian mcAnespie! A young lad on his way to a football match and brutally murdered for what, being an Irish Catholic! I'm sure you have sung his song many a times and if you did, shame on you for even suggesting wearing a poppy!

Not to forget the FRU secret unit in the British army that where giving a free rain to help set up innocent Catholics to get murdered.

The same * where the ones that where kicking doors on and throwing our people in jail during interment! Have family that's included in this! Some young as 15 even thou they wherent supposed to lift anyone under 16.

The * had us tortured growing up as kids during the troubles.

These are just a few of the top of my head. If I was to sit down and type out all the shame on my island from them, I'd be here forever. The poppy is not just a symbol for ww1 and WW2. It's a symbol for the British army in all conflicts around the world along with ww1&2. You need to wake up and refresh your history lessons.

We have family connections who lost their lives in France and are buried out there. My great grannies brother also served in one of them wars, came home after the war and was pulled out of his bed in old Ardoyne and casterated, stabbed something like 17 times by a bayonet and riddled to death by one of them so called war heros!

So with that said, you can see why my attitude is against the brits and the poppy! How anyone can even think about wearing one when they know it's British war symbol is crazy!

 

I respect your point of view, but I would genuinely disagree. I don't disagree with anything you said, my disagreement is with what you left out. There are two important things missing from your account.

The first thing is that you aren't describing most British people or even most ordinary members of the army. I'm British, I live in Britain surrounded by British people and I have worked with people who had served in the armed forces. These people are not war criminals. What you describe are the war crimes of special units, Black and Tans and individuals.

The second thing is the history you leave out. I repeat what I said earlier: the British Empire did these things because it was (and in your part of Ireland still is) an empire, not because it was British. You can find a similar history of murders, genocides, ethnic cleansings, famines and all the rest of it in all empires. Hating any people as a whole (as opposed to the people, institutions and structures that are responsible for these kinds of terrible things) doesn't lead to an end of any of this. It just provides cover for the real causes and allows them to shift to other sides as the balance of power shifts.

I can see both sides of the poppy debate. I don't wear one myself for obvious reasons; but when my niece was a little girl and asked me to get her one, I just bought her one. For her, it didn't represent any of the things you described.

 

Hopefully he'll stop supporting us now and give us all peace.

 

Utter * of a guy

 

At least the board can't just blame the green birgade as per.

 

To be fair, I grew up in Glasgow and have no idea what growing up in Belfast and NI must have been like, so Rod probably has no clue given he was brought up in England.

He'll see it as disrespect for those who gave their lives in two world wars, hence his viewpoint.

I think, sometimes, we have to try and see things from the other side, even if we disagree with them, as it gives an insight as to where others are coming from. That also means being tolerant of other people's ignorance.

It simplifying things to say that we must repect the fallen, just as it's simplifying things to say that the poppy is a symbol of British war crimes.

The truth is normally somewhere in between.