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Ange Postecoglou

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  1. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I did think this at first as well tbf but after the players had celebrated he got involved.

    I don't think he goes anywhere this summer.
     
  2. stew37

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    I was reading through it again and some of the comments were wild. Some folk don't deserve Ange.
     
  3. Ziggy

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    He was the same last year at Tannadice
     
  4. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Plenty of teams down south will be looking at him this summer. Whether or not it would be enough to entice him down there is a different question. Someone like Leeds or West Ham worries me. Especially West Ham. They throw money about like it's going out of fashion. Moyes deserves another year though so hoping they stick with him. Leeds are hopefully going down with Southampton and Everton.

    I don't see Leicester being a major problem. I think they will go safe anyways and try bring in an experienced premier league manager.
     
  5. NakamuraTastic

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    Ange Postecoglou: The boy from Greece who became Celtic's main man

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    Ange Postecoglou left Greece aged five to move to Australia

    It could be argued that the most arresting picture of Ange Postecoglou is not anything taken at the side of a football field with Celtic, not a shot of him celebrating his first or his second Scottish Premiership title, or his first or his second Scottish League Cup title.

    Nothing, really, from his successful days at Yokohama Marinos or Brisbane Roar or the Socceroos or South Melbourne Hellas can hold a candle to the photograph taken of him as a five-year-old holding a card with the number 24 on it.

    That was his immigration number when his parents took him out of the military junta regime of Athens, Greece to a safer but uncertain haven of Melbourne in Australia. That's where it all started. That's why the photograph has a poignancy.

    The little boy is looking down the camera lens with the same kind of stare that many years later, as Australia coach, would regularly burn a hole in the back of the head of his players in training, said former Socceroo Tim Cahill.

    His friend, Paul Trimboli, said Postecoglou doesn't say a lot, he doesn't make things comfortable for people, and for a lot of folk "that can be unnerving".

    Even at five, you can see some of that in the picture. A steely look. Since Celtic fans came across it, they've knocked a lot of fun out of what the 24 signifies.

    "The wee man is telling us how many in a row he's going to win."

    "He's saying how many Rangers managers he's going to see off."

    This was Angelos Postecoglou. Five years later his parents legally changed his name to Angelos Postekos, but he never cared for Postekos.

    "It was a fad in those days to shorten your name if you were Greek," he said years ago. "I never liked it and I never used it. I was proud of my background, but when it came to my first passport and my first driver's licence, there was nothing I could do about it."

    On Sunday, Postecoglou won his second straight Premiership title with Celtic and a fourth domestic trophy from a possible five since his move to Scotland from Japan in the summer of 2021.

    Barring the football miracle to end all football miracles, he will win a fifth from six when Celtic play Inverness Caledonian Thistle in the Scottish Cup final next month.

    A Celtic manager winning lots of titles is nothing new, but there is something different about this.

    Postecoglou didn't inherit a champion team in need of minor tweaks as, say, Brendan Rodgers had done before him. The season before Postecoglou took over, the club lost their bid for 10 league titles in a row by a whopping 25 points and the mood music at Celtic was dismal.

    Rangers had knocked them out of the Scottish Cup, Ross County had eliminated them from the League Cup, there were furious protests and banners calling for heads to roll. The atmosphere was toxic. Legions of fans spoke of their disillusionment. They felt they were being taken for granted and ignored.

    Manager Neil Lennon was sacked. Peter Lawwell, the long-standing chief executive, signalled his intention to resign. He was replaced by Dominic McKay, who lasted two months and then left for reasons unexplained.

    For the longest time, the club wooed Eddie Howe. They waited and waited for him to agree to become their next manager but months down the track, he said no. Cue more supporter thunder.

    More than 100 days had passed and still Celtic had no manager. The fans were in thermonuclear mode. A total overhaul of a tired squad was required - and quickly. Celtic needed a brand new team.

    Enter Postecoglou with his calm focus and his unerring eye for a player. And very quickly, things started to make sense.

    Over the last year or so, nine Premier League clubs have been 'linked' with an interest in Postecoglou. How much of that was genuine and how much was smoke is unclear, but the Australian is being talked about.

    More and more people are looking at what he's done - the excellent signings, the attacking style, the relentless nature of his team and his coolness in the maelstrom of Glasgow football - but the really interesting stuff, the soul of the guy, can be found in his back story.

    He could win any number of trebles with Celtic but nothing will match the tale of how he got to the club in the first place.

    "I just can't believe what my parents went through," he once said. "What they would have gone through to take a young family halfway round the world, on a ship that takes us 30 days, to a country where they don't speak the language, they don't know a soul, they don't have a house, they don't have jobs.

    "People say they go to another country for a better life. My parents did not have a better life, they went to Australia to provide opportunities for me to have a better life."

    His sister, Liz, is five years older and recalls the early months in Melbourne. "They arrived here with just suitcases, having to care for two little children," she recalled in the documentary Age of Ange. "It was difficult for her [Voula, her mother]. I remember many nights hearing her crying."

    Postecoglou's father - Dimitris, known as Jim - was a hard worker. Up early, home late, no nonsense. Football was his escape and his salvation.

    On Sundays, he brought his son to South Melbourne Hellas, a club set up for Greek immigrants. There was church in the morning and football in the afternoon. That was the rhythm of life.

    "As a kid, I just wanted to fit in, I didn't necessarily like the fact I came from another country and had a really long surname that nobody could get their mouth around. For a young boy the best way to fit in was sport," Postecoglou recalled.

    Football wasn't just a game to play, it was his one opportunity to bond with his father, his hero, as he's described him.

    In that documentary he's seen thumbing through his old comics and books. "It's why I keep them. It reminds me what my childhood was like. There was a lot of living in a fantasy football world that didn't exist here in Australia."

    There's footage from his football days where he's called Angelos, Angie and then Ange.

    He retired at 27 through injury. He won the Australian national championship (the great Ferenc Puskas was his manager) but always knew in his bones that coaching was where his future lay.

    There was a dread, though. And it goes back to his father again. What if he didn't make it as a coach? What if he failed? That was his conduit to his father. "What would that mean to dad and I? How would we fill the void?"

    He needn't have stressed. He won two national championships as manager of South Melbourne when everybody said he couldn't.

    Jim rarely said it to his face - an old-school man reluctant to show much emotion - but he told his mates how proud his boy made him. Word got back. It was enough.

    He coached at national under-age level but it was almost the end of him. He got sacked, had to go to the Greek third tier to find work, and then came back to Australia, to nothing. Those were scary times.

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    Ange Postecoglou celebrates last season's title success with wife Georgia and his two sons

    With his wife, Georgia, he moved in with his mother-in-law for six to eight months to get by. You look at him celebrating now with his wife and sons and you know that he went through the mill to get to where he is today.

    Brisbane Roar took him on in 2009 and he created what some seasoned observers say is the best club side in the history of the Australian game. Fast and furious, never-stop football. That philosophy didn't start in Glasgow in 2021.

    He won the league in 2011 and 2012, went to Melbourne Victory and then to the Socceroos, saw his team compete at the World Cup in 2014, won the Asian Cup in 2015, rebuilt the side and got them to another World Cup in 2018.

    Japan beckoned. Not only did he win the J-League with Yokohama Marinos, he also soaked up all the knowledge in the world about a market that would prove spectacularly helpful in his next job - Celtic.

    He has passed away now, but Jim Postecoglou is and will always be the key to his son.

    "The root and foundation of who I am is no longer by my side," the Celtic boss wrote in the Athletes Voice. "Where is the purpose now? His voice is in my head. The flame he lit is still there. I need to keep honouring his sacrifices."

    As interesting as it is to hear his thoughts every week about players and games, Postecoglou is never more compelling than when talking about the things that shaped him.

    "I understand what an honest day's work is about," he said, not long after he became Celtic manager.

    "I understand what sacrifice is about, I understand what being in a privileged position like I am now is about.

    "I am not going to take this for granted because I know how hard my mum and dad worked. They sacrificed their whole life for me to be here.

    "I don't feel like I am working every day, I feel like I am living a dream that was founded by other people's sacrifice, particularly my parents."

    That is deep and it is powerful and Postecoglou's work has taken him to a double last season, probably a treble this season and who knows what else in whatever time he has left in Glasgow. His story continues.

    Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65509996
     
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    Ange Postecoglou's Celtic FC on the brink of making a world historic treble record

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    Greek-Australian Ange Postecoglou has steered Celtic FC to the Scottish League Cup and the Scottish Premiership and is now on the brink of a historic eighth treble for the Glasgow club if he can lead them to victory against Inverness Caledonian Thistle in the Scottish Cup Final.

    A 2-0 win against Hearts in the Scottish capital left the Glaswegians with an unassailable lead over fierce rivals Rangers in the Scottish Premiership.

    “This is another wonderful day for our football club, champions of Scotland again, crowned as back-to-back Scottish Premiership winners – it sounds good doesn’t it!” Postecoglou told celticfc.com.

    “Everything we do here is for our supporters, to give you a team to be proud of and to play a style of football that you will enjoy watching, and the incredible backing that we’ve received throughout the season has been invaluable. This league triumph is a reward for all of us who love this unique club of ours ... we hope that we can enjoy further success together in a few weeks’ time when we compete in the Scottish Cup final.”

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    EDINBURGH, SCOTLAND - MAY 07: Angelos Postecoglou, Manager of Celtic, celebrates after winning the Cinch Scottish Premiership following the match between Heart of Midlothian and Celtic FC at Tynecastle Park on May 07, 2023 in Edinburgh, Scotland.

    Rangers, beware. Celtic now have 53 league titles – only two off Rangers’ record of 55 – after winning an 11th championship in the past 12 years.

    Celtic have already won the Scottish League Cup, beating Rangers 2-1 in the final in February, and play Inverness Caledonian Thistle in the Scottish FA Cup final on June 3 in an attempt to complete the treble – a feat the team achieved every year from 2017-20.

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    Celtic have lost only one of their 34 league games this season – at St Mirren in September – and there was little danger of a second defeat after Hearts defender Alex Cochrane was sent off in the 45th minute with the score at 0-0 at Tynecastle.

    Japan striker Kyogo Furuhashi bundled in the opening goal in the 67th minute but had to go off moments later due to an injury sustained while scoring.

    South Korea striker Oh Hyeon-gyu glanced in the second goal 10 minutes from full-time to secure victory for Celtic and a second straight league title under their Australian coach.

    The only other team to win a Scottish league title since 2012 is Rangers in 2021, when Steven Gerrard was manager.

    Postecoglou, who is continually linked with a move to the English Premier League, is already eyeing next season’s Champions League campaign with Celtic.

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    “Everyone in football knows how special European nights at Celtic Park are, and we will welcome some of Europe’s top teams and best players to our stadium knowing that, with 60,000 supporters behind us, we can compete with the very best,” he said.

    Meanwhile, Joe Hart is on course for a piece of British football history. After helping Celtic claim the Scottish Premiership crown, Hart will now be setting his sights on winning the Scottish Cup on the June 3.

    If he manages it he will only be the second player in history to win every domestic honour in Scotland and England.

    The only other player to have done this is Kenny Dalglish.

    Joe Hart reckons the limited number of away fans allow inside Tynecastle made Celtic’s title victory “sweeter”.

    Around 1200 away fans squeezed into the stand and lapped up the party atmosphere with the 2-0 victory.

    The result claimed the title for Ange Postecoglou’s side before they were welcomed back to Celtic Park by a massive crowd.

    However, post-match Hart took a veiled dig at the allocation issued to the champions.

    The fans are amazing, they go everywhere with us. It’s even sweeter to come to a stadium where they’ve tried to have as few in as possible.

    https://greekcitytimes.com/2023/05/08/ange-postecoglou-treble-celtic-fc/
     
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  8. Onefootwonder

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    I hope he's given a large transfer kitty next season to take us to the next level.
     
  9. dmccourt95

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    Your looking at 15-20 mill from Frimpong and KT before a player is sold, that’s on top of 50 mill in the bank and another 35-40 guaranteed from champions league. There’s nothing stopping us kicking on
     
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    Ange is going nowhere, he's lovin every minute of it here at Celtic. :ange2:
     
  11. Leone Naka Fan

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    Reportedly he's said he's only looking at adding in only a couple of positions, and that he'll be focused on Asia again. Seems he's not keen on spending big money.
     
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  12. blackfish Screaming from beneath the waves...

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    I’ve tried to be loquacious regarding Ange, but to put it simply……..,

    I * love him!

    The man is the epitome of class. How I wish my father was here to witness this special time.
     
  13. HatsmyBhoy

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    Probably right as well. I don't think a £15m- £20m player is going to be better enough than a £5m -£6m player to justify the extra cost.

    We're not going to be spending £40m plus on a single player, so may as well keep it around the £5m- £10m price bracket at most, and probably a couple for about half that.
     
  14. Leone Naka Fan

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    There are a few Asian players in Europe we could target, and those would cost between £5m- £10m. Players from East Asia would be cheaper. I'm not sure what is Ange planning regarding the goalkeeper position- with Siegrist and Bain not featuring much. East Asia has not produced many notable goalies.
     
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    ... but Australia has.

    I don't think the obsession with Australians on this website is always healthy, but Mat Ryan is built for Ange-ball.

    Mitch Langerak may be good enough, too, but probably won't consider it.
     
  16. HatsmyBhoy

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    Most folk on here who made a * of themselves did it under a username.

    Alan Brazil on the other hand.........
     
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    Pretty sure he said that there were a couple of positions he knew we had to improve on before considering outgoings, of which there will no doubt be a few. He's not an idiot, he knows we'll be needing to bring in a decent number overall.

    He also didn't say he'd specifically be focusing on Asia in the sense that we wouldn't be looking elsewhere. The fact we've been scouting Levi Garcia shows we've cast the net wider.
     
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    His faffing about with the ball cost Australia a goal at the WC. Admittedly, I don't watch him on a regular basis. But he seemed better at commanding the penalty box than playing the ball.
     
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    He might've not fancied what the scouts found outside of Asia.

    I'm operating on his supposed statement that someone summarized, though.
     
  20. Al Bootyerbaws

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    This man epitomises everything good about our club.
     
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