Honest Mistakes Thread 2016/17 onwards.

Just take this video to show them

 

Beaton Yesterday:

 

I was thinking about this last week, and out of they 4 and one or two others what decisions have been made between them that benefits them while * us and how similar are they decisions, I think with var now the picture becomes clearer and harder to hide the one rule for us no rules for them pish that we've been seeing

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The non-penalty at Hearts (handball) has been the most ridiculous decision I've seen yet. How that can't be given, yet the ball hitting Bernabei with his back turned and O'Riley with his arm by his side...it's beyond belief.

The Goldson one yesterday has to be a penalty as well. You can't smack the ball away with two hands and get away with it. Have no doubt whatsoever if that was in the other box, the huns would have got the decision.

The Starfelt one was a penalty. Madness diving in like that.

 

Because that's what people resort to when their argument is failing.

 

Not necessarily true, I myself love calling * names even when they're talking *.

 

Thats actually * angered me more than it should have. Those decisions are a * disgrace man.

Thats is the first time i seen the Starfelt penalty...going on that video above IMO No way is that a penalty now seeing that.

I can understand the speed hes going in at,his body is also shifting on to his left side coming out of the slide,Sakala steps onto him (not that he has a right not to to gain an advantage). I think the speed of the slide makes it look worse and contact made by Starfelt onto Sakala.

Is there anymore angles on that slide?

The one at the end on Goldson deffo aint a penalty...but at the other end it would have been given

 

I’m comparing how both threw themselves to block a shot/cross yet starfelt gets crucified for throwing himself at it while ccv doesn’t
Both made the exact same decision yet people saying starfelt shouldn’t have dived into the tackle which he didn’t

 

Last ditch is stopping a certain goal
Hart was still in the goals getting ready to make a save or are we saying he had no chance of making a save

 

The incidents are nothing like each other. CCV was ahead of Tillman and threw himself across the ball when the shot was coming. He was in control and blocked the ball without going near Tillman.

Sakala was too far wide and didn't have a clear shot on goal. Starfelt should have stayed on his feet and blocked his route to goal. He went to block a shot that wasn't coming. His momentum was always taking him into Sakala's path. If he missed the ball it was going to be a penalty. If CCV missed the ball it goes past him and needs Hart to save it. He was never going to foul Tillman.

 

I'd say it's astonishing that we didn't get that blatant penalty....but we all know its no..

Diverts it away from goal. Lifts his arms in an unnatural position. A * joke..

That orange * saying its no up to him when he was looking straight at it. Didn't mind for Starfelt though. Then that weasel Collum doing the monitor and no saying a word..

 

The decision is consistently against Celtic even if it contradicts previous decisions. Apparently Celtic going to have a meeting about it.

 

Celtic are set to raise major concerns over the SFA’s handling of VAR after the Connor Goldson Old Firm flashpoint became the latest video nasty for the Hoops.

Record Sport understands Parkhead chiefs are set to meet with Hampden officials regarding the ongoing issues surrounding the video assistant referee process. Celtic are unhappy at a number of calls since the set up was brought in before the World Cup – with the latest incident last Ibrox causing more angst.


The Hoops were incensed at VAR decisions that went against them in clashes against Hearts, Ross County and Dundee United. And in the derby showdown they were convinced ref John Beaton should have been instructed to take another look after the ball appeared to strike Goldson’s hand in the box in Monday’s thrilling 2-2 draw. The rule book does allow players to get off the hook if they make themselves bigger in a reflex action to protect their face.


But former Celtic star Chris Sutton branded the decision incredible – and laid the blame at the door of Monday’s VAR chief Willie Collum. The Record Sport columnist said: “It’s not about John Beaton not going over to have a look. He’s acting on advice he’s getting from the VAR officials and they’ve told him he’s made the correct call that it was not a penalty.

“But I find that incredible. It’s not up for debate – it was a penalty kick. That would have been given every single time in England. There wouldn’t even be an argument.

“Some people are saying Goldson was protecting his face, what, with his hands above his head? Come off it. That is nonsense.


You are talking about a big, tough, centre half, he wasn’t ducking down to protect his face. He made himself bigger. You can twist the rulebook anyway you want but it’s down to interpretation and we’ve seen that kind of penalty all the time.


You have to wonder what Willie Collum in the VAR hut is doing in that situation. What is he seeing? It makes you wonder, is it incompetence or did he just bottle out of making the big call?

“Who knows, but it was a terrible decision. There have been a lot of poor handball calls this season, some really stupid decisions. It’s all about being the arms being outside the silhouette of the body and so on, so if you arms are up where Goldson’s were, there was absolutely nowhere for the officials to go.

“Whether Celtic deserved something out of the game or not is irrelevant – that’s a huge moment.”

But former top ref Stuart Dougal has defended Collum. The video assistant studied the incident but did not offer Beaton the chance to take a second look on the pitchside monitor




Dougal backed that decision but also insisted VAR would not have intervened if Beaton had given the spot-kick.

He told BBC: “The current laws at the moment are: ‘Did the player make himself unnaturally bigger? Has there actually been a handball?’ If you’re a Celtic fan I’m sure you’re going to claim, ‘Yeah, I can see a little nick there’.

 

About time Celtic questions it, when Rangers have conceded 0 penalties since VAR came in you know something is wrong.

 

I disagree with Sutton..

Beaton had a great view of it. He copped out and didn't wanna give it. Even said as much..

Him and Collum both at fault. Cheats..

 

"Yeah, I can see a little nick there."



* off. The * palms the ball away with both hands, hitting it up into the air. If it hits his face it rebounds right back where it came from.

Trying not to let this get to me too much but * me.

 

You know something's not right when Neil McCann also said it was a penalty lol

 

Looked at it again, stone-cold sober, and still don't think it was a penalty to them. In my view, it's still a blocking move and while trying to turn back he trips himself on Starfleet. However, it left just enough room for Beaton's bias to give it, so no surprise it was... Still think the way he waits a second or two before giving supports that he consciously chose to give it, not that it was what he thought he'd seen. Not reviewing it backs that up, for me at least.

Penalty to us for handball isn't even worth debating, and be the multitude of pathetic justification is just embarrassing really... They'd be better just saying they * it and walk away.

What I'm not prepared to do is start throwing shade at other Tim's over how they saw/see it... The match is over, the result is in... We move on!

 

Canny believe the justification going around the media pundits for the penalty is that “Starfelt doesn’t need to go to ground”